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Author Topic:   Where Did The (Great Flood) Water Come From And Where Did It Go?
Chuck77
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Message 56 of 432 (643035)
12-04-2011 1:31 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Rahvin
12-03-2011 11:22 PM


Rahvin writes:

{/Devil's Advocate}

How'd I do?

Who am I to judge how anyone does anywhere but I like your points about the various flood stories each culture has.

As far as magic goes, I think there are better explanations.

The earth could have been "smoother" than it is today, the ocean floors not as deep as they are today letting the water available back then cover the earth.

After the effects the flood caused (deeper ocean floors, and more mountanous) it leveled out to where it stands today. Possibly.

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Chuck77
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Message 58 of 432 (643039)
12-04-2011 4:00 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Dr Adequate
12-04-2011 3:23 AM


Why?

Just trying to provide a model so that it can be examined and discussed from a scientific perspective.

If that's what possibly could have happened i'd like to explore it. If that's not what possibly happened then the water had to have come from somewhere else.

Maybe the water came out of the earth when the "fountains of the deep opened up"?

The ocean floors sank, and were able to take all the water back in that they spit out?

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Chuck77
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Message 92 of 432 (643732)
12-11-2011 4:26 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Trixie
12-04-2011 6:38 AM


Trixie writes:

Finally something to work with!
To examine your suggestions, we need to determine what evidence there is and what evidence we would expect for each one.

Hi Trixie. Sorry it took so long. Well, I havn't come up with answers to all of that yet. It gets complicated with CPT and all that will just bog down the thread.

My position is that the water was already here plus the rain that fell. Where it went could still be here. I'll try to post a better answer soon.


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Chuck77
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Message 93 of 432 (643734)
12-11-2011 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Rahvin
12-05-2011 8:08 PM


Rahvin writes:

{Devil's Advocate}

If you we're a full blown creationist this is what you would argue? That God added water supernaturally somehow? There is no other way? What about Rain, oceans, etc etc?

In order to posit geological events as the cause of the flooding, you would require rapid geological movement via an unknown mechanism to raise the sea floor (and thus sea level) to cause the flood, and then more rapid geological movement after the flood to lower sea level and allow the water to recede, all without rendering the Earth uninhabitable or boiling away the flood waters.

Ok I see. Well, I can't argue with that because I believe God did cause the "fountains of the deep" to open up, which could have been housing waters. So that can be considered SN and the water that God added could have been by rain. Not poof.

This level of geological motion would be greater than the sum total of all geological activity involved in the breakup of Pangaea into the modern continents combined, focused into less time than the flood waters covered the Earth, twice.

Couldn't the flood have caused pangaea?

and then removed it after the flood was complete.

I can't buy that. I can buy the water being added by heavy rain but not removing it by poofing it gone. The water stayed here somehow, it's somewhere IMO.

Since parsimony also suggests ex nihilo water creation via an agent already known within the context of the narrative to create things like water ex nihilo, I think catastrophic geology is by far the less likely of the two hypotheses.

Well, it' works but still doesn't say how the water got here. When you say "God added water" how do you posit He did it? I'm not sure how to know how the rain fell. If it can rain "cats and dogs" X 1,000,000 could it work?

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