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Author Topic:   A Problem With the Literal Interpretation of Scripture
Scanman
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Message 21 of 304 (643957)
12-13-2011 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Dawn Bertot
12-13-2011 12:06 AM


No prophecy of old was of PRIVATE INTERPRETATION, (or by the will of man)but Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit"

2 Samuel 23:2 "The Spirit of the LORD spoke through me; his word was on my tongue."

IOWs it wasnt thier personal perspective, (interpretation of things) but that of the Spirits, atleast according to another inspired writer.

One thing to remember is that 1&2 Kings, 1&2 Chronicles were written by court scribes and not penned by a prophet...they are a history. Acts was written as an historical document by Luke, a physician, who was not an eyewitness and did not attribute himself to be a prophet.

So in keeping with the original OP, I think that the prophetical book of Hosea more accurately reflects the will of God over the writing of a secular scribe in the court of a king.

Peace


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Scanman
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Message 24 of 304 (644060)
12-14-2011 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Dawn Bertot
12-14-2011 12:59 AM


Dawn writes:

...because it claims to be Gods directed and divine word.

Where does 'it' claim to be Gods' directed and divine word?

Are you referring to 2 Tim 3:16?
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

If so, what 'scripture' is Paul referring to?...his own?...it is, in fact, the Law & the Prophets.

I do not believe for one moment that the New Testament authors, regarded what they wrote as God-breathed scripture. It was only later on that 'men' made this decision.

The Bible, a man-made canon of 66 books, needs to be read with discernment...the 'Word of God', is not necessarily ink on paper.

Peace


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Scanman
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Message 30 of 304 (644112)
12-15-2011 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2011 1:30 AM


Dawn writes:

Instead of me repeating myself could you just refer to message 26 for the answer to your question?

I'm sorry, I reread your msg 26 and I could not find anything of relevance.


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Scanman
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Message 32 of 304 (644147)
12-15-2011 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2011 1:19 AM


Dawn writes:

So how will you reconcile Jesus agreement and acceptance of the old, his teaching on hell with your supposed world view by Christ.

Where does it say that Jesus accepted the Old Testament?....he obviously accepted the Law and the Prophets...but the OT was not even agreed on as a canon by the Jews until the council of Jamnia in ~69AD.

And by the by...the word 'Hell' does not appear anywhere in the original languages of the Bible...
...just Sheol (hidden/grave), Hades (hidden/grave), Gehenna (a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem and the most common reference used by Jesus). The concept of eternal punishment in a fiery domain was foreign to the Jewish people until they were introduced to it by Zoroastrians when they were in exile in Babylon. (it is also a borrowed concept from the ancient Greeks)

But this is a bit off topic...


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Scanman
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Message 33 of 304 (644148)
12-15-2011 2:59 PM
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12-15-2011 1:19 AM


duplicate message

Edited by Scanman, : duplicate


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Scanman
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Message 39 of 304 (644473)
12-18-2011 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Dawn Bertot
12-18-2011 12:39 AM


You are confusing the 'Law and the Prophets' with the Old Testament as we know it today.
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Scanman
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Message 70 of 304 (645058)
12-22-2011 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Dawn Bertot
12-11-2011 2:17 AM


Dawn writes:

For example how would you explain the instance in Acts chapter 5 where God immediately and summarily sentenced and executed Ananias and Sapphira, for simply lying about the land and the for the amount of money they alledgedly sold it for.

Did God write Acts?...no...Luke did...someone who wasn't even an eyewitness to the events he wrote about. Luke compiled what he believed to be reliable accounts...like a reporter.

Peace


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