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Author Topic:   What bothers me about the evolution of Man
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Message 1 of 142 (642854)
12-02-2011 7:48 AM


Even though i do believe in evolution its the only thing that makes sense there is one thing our brain size or our brain power.

How did our brains get so overpowering. Even the brain power of a goldfish is astounding a few cells of brain matter and you can actually train a goldfish. If we go closer to us in evolution and look at some of our living relatives like the chimps their brains are complex and their size is about half of human brains their brainpower is astounding they can communicate with humans via sign language they can grasp mathematics preform complex tasks. Our brains on the other hand go off the charts. Why did we evolve so much brainpower how was such a over boost helpful to a society that used speers and farmed and gathered for food. Why did brains that can understand the basic laws that govern our universe evolve in a society whose basic needs where food sleep and procreate. And their basic understandings where fire hot, speer pointy mammoth food.

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Took extra "b" out of "abbout" in topic title.


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Message 8 of 142 (642864)
12-02-2011 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Jon
12-02-2011 8:55 AM


The benefit of a brain that is better capable of understanding the outside world can hardly be in doubt. In fact, if we look at your previous comment about food gathering, consider how immensely helpful a brain that can remember the location and ripening season of a wide variety of food sources as well as the migratory patterns of delectable critters would be. It's no contest that, other things being relatively equal, the group with a better food procurement capability will outcompete the group with a lesser one.

An elephant has the same capability but it cant understand how gravity works. Our brains are so of the charts compared to the animal kingdom that it begs the question why was so much brainpower needed we could dominate the world with much less brain power.


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frako
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Message 9 of 142 (642865)
12-02-2011 10:48 AM
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12-02-2011 8:57 AM


Hows that?

Thats a pretty good explanation, though i think our brain is overpowered even for all the examples you provided we can do so much with our brainpower with a bit of training we can easely remember the positions of each card in a stack of cards, we deduced how the world works to its smallest particles, we are even coming to real models how and why the universe began, and there seems to be no limits to what our brains can do.


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Message 11 of 142 (642867)
12-02-2011 10:55 AM
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12-02-2011 10:08 AM


Another thing that I didn't see brought up yet is sexual selection. Maybe the chicks just dug the guys that exhibited traits that resulted from bigger brains.

This could passably be the best answer probably not the only one, even if the brain power could not be fully utilized, the brain that could come to solutions faster would be the one selected for even though there was not allot of basic knowledge the brain could deduce from like we have in the present. The more "space" the brain had to store real world scenarios, the easier it was to store and more data was available to process.


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Message 14 of 142 (642870)
12-02-2011 11:21 AM
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12-02-2011 11:05 AM


And when did world domination become some evolutionary goal?

Well not a goal perse but the "goal" is to be at the top of the food chain or the best survivor and reproducer


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Message 28 of 142 (642911)
12-02-2011 3:07 PM
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12-02-2011 12:19 PM


Start paying more attention to the Republican candidates for US President. You might change your mind on whether the brain is overpowered.

You can buy your grandma the best PC out there if she does not know hot to turn it on its useless to her.

Our brains are seriously powerful compared to our closest living relatives especially if you "train" your brain to do certain tasks like fast reading some people can read a page as fast as some can read a word, or calculate high numbers, deduct something from abstract examples, photographic memory, ability to learn several languages i think the world record is 58 languages spoken fluently....


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Message 36 of 142 (643066)
12-04-2011 2:21 PM
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12-04-2011 2:04 PM


Re: No knowledge; barely even hypothesises
The brain of a goldfish does not contain a "few cells", unless you consider 7 and a half million "a few".

Well compared to a dog who has a bigger brain then the whole fish


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Message 42 of 142 (643134)
12-05-2011 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Pressie
12-05-2011 4:26 AM


We don't know exactly how. However, all the empirical evidence we have indicate that it did.

I dont know either thats why im asking duh...

lol

One thing we do for sure know is that our brains weren't poofed into existence from nothing.

The magic poofing theory is silly but there could be an alternative the Alien astronaut theory aliens needed a workforce that could do stuff for them

So they genetically enhanced an indigenous friendly ape species

And given that we dont know for sure how the process went down the possibility remains combined by all the "evidence" for the alien astronauts you find on the web it still remains plausible.

added for a laough by EDIT:

Teach the controversy alien astronaut theory should be taught alongside evolution and in creationist churches

Edited by frako, : No reason given.


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Message 58 of 142 (643232)
12-05-2011 5:31 PM
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12-05-2011 4:41 PM


non-man species also evolved similiar levels of intelligence.

If you are talking about Neanderthals and simmilar none of their brain sizes comes close to us on a scale where a squid is 1 and we are 10 they would be a 6,5 at best. Cant be to sure without an iq test from them


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Message 60 of 142 (643239)
12-05-2011 5:55 PM
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12-05-2011 5:44 PM


dang i take it back i thought their brains where smaller some 70% the size of ours at max

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Message 62 of 142 (643245)
12-05-2011 6:11 PM
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12-05-2011 6:07 PM


they are not too smart they life in the frigging desert, as to why they dont have sophisticated technology cmmon who wants to build a castle in that heat, who wants to be locked in a room in that heat and ponder and experiment on electricity cmmon be real in that heat all you want to do is lay in the shade

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