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Taz
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Message 1 of 73 (643083)
12-04-2011 8:08 PM


Have you guys seen this shit?
jezebel.com/5864063/church-stands-up-for-what-it-believes-in-bans-interracial-couples
http://www.knoxnews.com/...t-to-interracial-ban-at-ky-church
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The fact that it was allowed to go that far before someone decided to stop it is unacceptable,
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jar
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Message 2 of 73 (643085)
12-04-2011 8:20 PM


I'm not sure what you think should be stopped. The church should be able to set almost any rules they want for their church.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Taz
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Message 3 of 73 (643086)
12-04-2011 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by jar
12-04-2011 8:20 PM


Where did I say I think they should be stopped? If anything, I love the fact that they were able to do this.
That said, I'm just giving my opinion that they are scary. Here's a cnn personal interview with the girl in question.
Video News - CNN

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jar
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Message 4 of 73 (643087)
12-04-2011 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Taz
12-04-2011 8:44 PM


I still don't see what is scary about it.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Taz
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Message 5 of 73 (643091)
12-04-2011 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
12-04-2011 8:50 PM


Didn't you see the video I posted? At about 1:30 or so you can see a ghost in the background. Scary stuff.

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jar
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Message 6 of 73 (643092)
12-04-2011 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Taz
12-04-2011 9:33 PM


I don't watch videos.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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NoNukes
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Message 7 of 73 (643093)
12-04-2011 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by jar
12-04-2011 8:20 PM


The church should be able to set almost any rules they want for their church
Yes, but we needn't respect them for their actions. A forty plus member church votes 9-6 to boot the interracial couple. What were the other members doing during this farce. Where were the family's supposed friends?
I know the original pastor is gone, but there's no way that this is the only screwy doctrine the church practices.

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jar
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Message 8 of 73 (643095)
12-04-2011 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by NoNukes
12-04-2011 10:26 PM


No, you don't have to respect them for their actions but you should very actively support their right to have what you think are screwy doctrines.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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nwr
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Message 9 of 73 (643099)
12-04-2011 11:24 PM
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12-04-2011 9:33 PM


I'm not sure why you are surprised at this. I though it was well known that racism is deeply entrenched in southern conservative "christianity".
At about 1:30 or so you can see a ghost in the background.
At around 1:40 there appeared to be a white statue that was out of focus and in the direct sun (i.e. too bright, compared to the person being interviewed).

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Coyote
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Message 10 of 73 (643100)
12-04-2011 11:38 PM
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12-04-2011 11:24 PM


Conservatives?
I'm not sure why you are surprised at this. I though it was well known that racism is deeply entrenched in southern conservative "christianity".
What makes you think those folks represent conservatism?
They may claim it, but, like many of their other claims, that doesn't make it so.
Socons are far closer to statists than conservatives. They want to use the power of the state to enforce their beliefs to the detriment to all other beliefs.
To my way of thinking that is not conservative. I see conservatives as espousing individual liberties and limited government. That's not what socons are looking for at all.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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NoNukes
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Message 11 of 73 (643101)
12-04-2011 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
12-04-2011 10:54 PM


but you should very actively support their right to have what you think are screwy doctrines.
No, I don't have to do any such thing. Yes, they have the right to do anything they want, but unless they are being threatened in some way, I don't have to actively do anything to support them.
The current pastor is not in favor of their policies and wants to change them. In your opinion, should I support him or should I try to convince the church to fire him?

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NoNukes
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Message 12 of 73 (643104)
12-05-2011 12:00 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Coyote
12-04-2011 11:38 PM


Re: Conservatives?
I see conservatives as espousing individual liberties and limited government.
I have to admit to being baffled by this line of thinking. I understand that you consider yourself to be conservative in a way distinct from social conservatives and neocons, but what is socially conservative about racism? I though racism was just ignorant.
Racists are only considered conservative because large numbers of them profess to hold other conservative values and because the more conservative major party doesn't seem to find it all that important to distance themselves from them.

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Coyote
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Message 13 of 73 (643107)
12-05-2011 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by NoNukes
12-05-2011 12:00 AM


Re: Conservatives?
The social conservatives were democrats until Nixon picked them up as part of his southern strategy. The racism simply came along for the ride.
That doesn't make them either conservative or in favor of small government and individual liberties. To me those are hallmarks of conservatism. Statism is the exact opposite.
The socons would rule the country with their values enforced by law if they could get away with it, and that is statism. I have no use for it.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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NoNukes
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Message 14 of 73 (643117)
12-05-2011 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Coyote
12-05-2011 12:21 AM


Re: Conservatives?
That doesn't make them either conservative or in favor of small government and individual liberties.
It's pretty easy to cast racism as being in favor of small federal government and individual liberty to associate and hate whoever you want. And in fact that's exactly how those southern Democrats did characterize it. Racists don't want laws to enforce their values, they'd be just fine with laws interfering with racism (e.g. 1964 civil rights act Brown v. Board of Education) being removed.
The socons would rule the country with their values enforced by law if they could get away with it, and that is statism. I have no use for it.
A quite reasonable sentiment. But it seems to me that you must find it quite difficult to identify any Coyote conservatives.
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jar
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Message 15 of 73 (643139)
12-05-2011 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by NoNukes
12-04-2011 11:48 PM


You should do neither. What they do in their church is none of your business unless it is harming others against their will.
You should support their right to decide on their rules for their communion.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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