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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
So I just noticed the title of this thread is "Souhern baptists are scary"...
and here I was about to bring up the Green Tree Frog as an example of an uncreative common name. What's that? A frog... that's green... and lives in trees? Brilliant!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Ever hear of a guy called Buffalo Bill?
quote: I don't think he ever traveled to Africa or Asia, let alone kill any Buffaloes there.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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subbie Member (Idle past 1276 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Your otherwise excellent post is marred only by the example you chose. Isaac Hayes used the word "bad" to describe someone in a positive way in 1971 (Theme from Shaft).
Teens were using the word "bad" to describe good things in the mid 70s. I know this because I was one. The Freak didn't record his Bad until 1987. Carry on.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Buffalo live in Africa and Asia. Yes. I know. I've seen them there. I've frigging eaten one (bit chewy). I know what a water buffalo is.
Bison live in North America. Really? That'll be news to the European Bison, Bison bonasus, which has been happily living in Europe. Why don't you come over and tell them all how they should be in America?
maybe imagery would help you out. Maybe. Let's do a Google image search for "buffalo". I get this as my top result;
In fact, the first six images are all of bison. Kind of backs up my point about how the word "buffalo" can refer to North American Bison. Y'know, like the dictionary I cited told you. The fact that the same picture is also the top result for "bison" kinda rams home the point that both terms are acceptable descriptions of the same creature.
be careful they are similar to each other. What exactly made you think I was the one who was confused? Was it when I presented a dictionary definition that clearly showed that "North American Bison" was an acceptable meaning of the word "buffalo"? Or was it when I referred to the creature as "Bison bison"? I mean, which part of "Bison bison" made you think I didn't know it was a bison? The first Bison maybe? Or the second? But really, your main problem here is not your deep ignorance of biology and its conventions, but your appalling ignorance of your own language. The English language is not a top-down prescriptive system. It is dependant on usage. The fact is that, inaccurate as it may be, the word "Buffalo" has been used for centuries to describe Bison bison. That makes it correct, whether you like it or not. Trying to insist that people adhere only to your preferred sense of a word is essentially an equivocation. It is also arrogant and snobbish. It is particularly galling when the hyper-correction you're so keen on is blatantly wrong.
funny that you can get peeved about something you are wrong about. Have you heard of the psychological concept of projection? Mutate and Survive
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4250 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
you are probably one of those people who thinks poisonous snakes are really in the woods.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4250 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
Crash writes:
Bullshit. There's no such thing as a "technical common name".Bison is a perfect example. It’s the common name, the genus name and the species name. You are totally wrong.
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Oh dear, it looks like you need a primer on biological taxonomy.
Bullshit. Bison is a perfect example. It’s the common name, the genus name and the species name. And that's exactly why it's confusing. "Bison" on its own could refer to either a North American Bison or a wisent (European Bison). Or it could refer to both. That's why Latin binomials exist; they clarify what we're talking about. Common names don't and can't do that. Example; This is a dandelion;
But it also goes by a number of other common names;
quote: Now if you wanted to argue that "dandelion" was a better name than "bum-pipe" or "shit-a-bed", then I would have to agree. But that doesn't make someone who wants to call them bum-pipes is wrong. It just means that they've chosen to call it by a different common name than you. But common names don't mean shit, so that's okay. The second problem is that some common names apply to more than one species. This is true of the dandelion. The common name "dandelion" applies to both Taraxacum officionale and Taraxacum erthynospermum. It is not wrong to refer to either as "dandelion". It is simply a function of how common names don't mean shit. If you want to be specific, use the Latin binomial name. If you want to use the common name, go ahead, but in doing so you are being neither specific nor technical. The same applies to buffalo/bison. Whilst it may be a little misleading and something of a misnomer, the word "buffalo" is an accepted common term for Bison bison. This is true whether you like it or not. Just check a dictionary;
quote: Answers.com
quote: Dictionary.com
quote: Merriam-Webster
quote: Collins Concise dictionary
You are totally wrong. No he's not and if you bothered to research anything, you could find this out. Try either of these articles, both of which just back up what Crashfrog and the rest of us have been telling you. You should try and listen to people once in a while, instead of just yelling "bullshit!". You might learn something. Mutate and Survive Edited by Granny Magda, : No reason given. Edited by Granny Magda, : No reason given.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined:
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AE writes:
Liar. There's no such thing as a poisonous snake. There are plenty of venomous snakes, though. Do you lie often?
you are probably one of those people who thinks poisonous snakes are really in the woods.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4250 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
how did i lie?
you are the liar.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
There's no such thing as a poisonous snake. You claimed there are. That's a lie.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
There's no such thing as a poisonous snake. You claimed there are. That's a lie. ... or a trivial error in English usage? Besides which, it seems that there are some poisonous snakes, including keelback snakes and some garter snakes, which acquire toxicity by eating poisonous toads and newts respectively. Topic, anyone?
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4250 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
I did not claim there was, you are doing something common with people of poor debating skills, this is called building a strawman. Pretty typical move by you, too bad you had to include Ad hominem with. I shouldn't even respond to ignorance such as yours.
you need to work on your reading comprehension. I said to CS "you are probably one of those people who thinks poisonous snakes are really in the woods". I am completely dumbfounded by your inability to understand that line, and how it would appear anything like the strawman you built, other than you are liberal full of rage who lashes out with emotional responses rather than logical ones.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4250 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
shhhhhhh i got my bases covered.
i appreciate it, but messing with this ignorant Taz guy is kind of fun.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
"you are probably one of those people who thinks poisonous snakes are really in the woods".
Please enlighten us by what is meant by this?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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