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Author Topic:   Does the universe have total net energy of zero?
AZPaul3
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Message 362 of 404 (698906)
05-10-2013 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 357 by ringo
05-10-2013 12:02 PM


Well, there's also a little matter of the observed fact that everything in the universe is moving outward from the same point.

Please excuse the quibble, ringo. Let me restate this for you.

" the observed fact that everything in the universe is moving outward from every point."


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AZPaul3
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Message 370 of 404 (698940)
05-10-2013 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 364 by justatruthseeker
05-10-2013 7:05 PM


From all points?

Yeah, from every point. Interesting isn't it?

Of course ringo knew this (as do most of the posters on this forum). Just had a momentary finger-pokin' problem on the keyboard. But me, being a picayunish son of a bitch, just had to quibble and correct.

That's a good theory if you could prove it by observation, but since you have never been to another galaxy to observe this, or even outside our own, it is just shall we say opinion?

No, not an opinion. Now the logic and math behind this fact is way beyond you and you might strain a synapse just looking at it let alone understanding it so there really is no use trying to show you. Besides you are just not worth the effort.

However, should you decide to go out on your own and find the answer let me give you a small hint to get you started.

As we look out into the cosmos we can see the laws of physics working in exactly the same way we see them working here. Everywhere we look, no matter how far away in space or deep in time, the laws show that they hold.

[insert a lot of heavy physics here]

So, yeah, every point in the universe is moving outward from every other point in the universe. Every point. Each and every one of them. The whole universe. All of it. Quite cool actually.


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Message 371 of 404 (698941)
05-10-2013 11:11 PM
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05-10-2013 7:05 PM


if I am on a high redshift quasar looking at earth (our galaxy), then it would appear to me how?

Depends on timing. If the timing is right you might see the Milky Way as a highly red-shifted quasar. In some other timing you would just see a highly red-shifted dinky little pipsqueek galaxy.

You do know what a quasar is, yes?


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