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Dr Adequate Member  Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
This is ignorant gibberish. Why don't you learn some physics?
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AZPaul3 Member  Posts: 3752 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Please excuse the quibble, ringo. Let me restate this for you. " the observed fact that everything in the universe is moving outward from every point."
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ringo Member  Posts: 16118 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Fair enough. I didn't like the term "point" myself.
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justatruthseeker Member (Idle past 1212 days)  Posts: 117 From: Tulsa, OK, USA Joined: |
Only gibberish when it goes against you? Others were using it to try to prove your point, you didn't seem to object then, so you have no valid objection now. Or are you saying they were incorrect too? it's not my theory of the Big Bang, it's theirs. Your astrophysicists are saying all matter was confined in a 0 point volume singularity. And just which part is "gibberish" lets see what the theory says about what you say is wrong????? \Don't respond with a general denial, that's avoidance of the issue and no more than a blatant attempt to distract. Aware of all the games. Teach me some physics then, what no references??? From all points? That's a good theory if you could prove it by observation, but since you have never been to another galaxy to observe this, or even outside our own, it is just shall we say opinion? Because if you are correct, and everything is reciprocal in Relativity, then if I am on a high redshift quasar looking at earth (our galaxy), then it would appear to me how? I'll let you answer that and teach me some physics. Edited by justatruthseeker, : No reason given. Edited by justatruthseeker, : No reason given. Edited by justatruthseeker, : No reason given. Edited by justatruthseeker, : No reason given. Edited by justatruthseeker, : added definition in ()
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
You are delusional: no-one was trying to use your gibberish to prove my point. Try to be a little less crazy.
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Panda Member (Idle past 1755 days)  Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Sorry Percy, justatruthseeker doesn't do answers - even to the simplest of questions. Edited by Panda, : No reason given. "There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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justatruthseeker Member (Idle past 1212 days) Posts: 117 From: Tulsa, OK, USA Joined: |
All I have to say is this, you leave me speechless with your knowledge, yet say nothing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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Percy Member  Posts: 18246 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
The problem of the singularity is analogous to physical laws that have distance in the denominator. The intensity of sound doesn't really become infinite when you reach the source, and gravity doesn't really become infinite when the distance of separation is 0, but that is the result you get if you just blindly apply the formulas. So cosmologists know better than to blindly apply the laws of general relativity all the way back to T=0. They understand that there wasn't really any singularity. A number of theories have been proposed to explain what really happens, but none has yet garnered enough evidence to win out over the others. --Percy
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Apparently being speechless is something else you don't know how to do.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 3752 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Yeah, from every point. Interesting isn't it? Of course ringo knew this (as do most of the posters on this forum). Just had a momentary finger-pokin' problem on the keyboard. But me, being a picayunish son of a bitch, just had to quibble and correct.
No, not an opinion. Now the logic and math behind this fact is way beyond you and you might strain a synapse just looking at it let alone understanding it so there really is no use trying to show you. Besides you are just not worth the effort. However, should you decide to go out on your own and find the answer let me give you a small hint to get you started. As we look out into the cosmos we can see the laws of physics working in exactly the same way we see them working here. Everywhere we look, no matter how far away in space or deep in time, the laws show that they hold. [insert a lot of heavy physics here] So, yeah, every point in the universe is moving outward from every other point in the universe. Every point. Each and every one of them. The whole universe. All of it. Quite cool actually.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 3752 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Depends on timing. If the timing is right you might see the Milky Way as a highly red-shifted quasar. In some other timing you would just see a highly red-shifted dinky little pipsqueek galaxy. You do know what a quasar is, yes?
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I don't have any astrophysicists, they're too expensive. The bills for astrophysicist kibble alone would be more than I could afford. However, if I did have some astrophysicists, I can guarantee you that they would not be saying that "all matter was confined in a 0 point volume singularity", because the gibberish phrase "0 point volume singularity" was invented by you and has never been used by anyone else; especially not by astrophysicists, who tend to be sane.
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justatruthseeker Member (Idle past 1212 days) Posts: 117 From: Tulsa, OK, USA Joined: |
I don't mind you talking, this is a forum isn't it, a place to debate theories? Just don't say the data says what it doesn't say. If you want to say we think it is this way, that's fine, but when data contradicts that theory it is then twisted so it can explain any situation. Can't explain galaxy rotation? Add a pinch of Dark Matter, a dollop of Dark Energy and wham, there you go. And you are forbidden to think something we actually can measure can't be the cause. Only within the last few decades have we even had the technology to measure electric and magnetic fields in space, yet we know everything about it from theories that once said Kristen Birkeland was wrong. And know they are right back where they started. Measuring the electric fields and then ignoring them. Wondering why the data doesn't fit. They have a couple theories though, don't you worry - just keep the pocketbooks open, just not any that include electrical activity in plasma, the very thing they measure. quote: and then why are we here at all, if no one is going to say anything? Might as well sum it up now. I'll tell you my summation right now. E=mc^2
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Some important part of your brain appears to have broken. It's the part that would have stopped you from writing that. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 18246 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Dark energy has nothing to do with keeping galaxies from flying apart due to rotation. Sticking to the facts seems to be getting me ignored, while Dr Adequate's taunts are garnering all your attention, so I guess I have to mix in a taunt if I want a response: For a seeker of truth you sure seem to say a lot of things that aren't true. Oh, wait, I get it, you're a seeker of truth, not a speaker of truth. --Percy
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