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Author Topic:   Evidence to expect given a designer
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Message 2 of 373 (644153)
12-05-2011 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
12-05-2011 3:24 PM


Hi Mike,

I see several problems with this proposal:

  • Somewhere north of 90% of the words are quotes from other websites, not your own words.

  • If the quotes were of evidence then I might not consider it a problem, but they're just someone else arguing for your point of view. I'd like to see evidence supporting the point of view, and I'd like to see arguments in your own words.

  • Qualities like beautiful, fast, amazing, etc., are subjective. What is beautiful, fast or amazing to one person is not for another. You need to offer some objective criteria and evidence.

If you decide you'd like to try a rewrite I'd be glad to give it another look.


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Message 4 of 373 (644155)
12-09-2011 8:42 AM
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12-06-2011 11:47 AM


Hi Mike,

I think all you need in your proposal is objective criteria for detecting design, or maybe you meant for detecting good design.


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Message 6 of 373 (644157)
12-15-2011 5:38 PM
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12-15-2011 1:23 PM


Boiling it down, you're making these arguments:

  • Design is recognized by how an object's components are arranged.

  • Good design is recognized by whether other designers copy it.

I ask participants to keep the focus on these arguments.


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Message 7 of 373 (644159)
12-15-2011 5:38 PM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Evidence to expect given a designer thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

    
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Message 57 of 373 (644437)
12-17-2011 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by shadow71
12-17-2011 5:04 PM


Re: Unintelligent Non-design
Hi Shadow,

Your first post in this thread and you're already off topic. I'm not going to coax and cajole you to get on topic this time. Youve done this so many times before, and you've never paid attention to moderation before, so I'm just going to suspend you for a week.

When you come back, if you still want to talk about how nature began then I suggest you find a thread on that topic or propose one yourself.


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