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Author Topic:   The Annual War over Christmas -- by christians
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Message 10 of 63 (644908)
12-21-2011 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Artemis Entreri
12-21-2011 10:44 AM


biblical references are for protestants.
Benedict XVI's Christmas Message writes:
Verbum caro factum est" — "The Word became flesh" (Jn 1:14).
Benedict XVI's Christmas Message writes:
Being in his presence, observing his works and hearing his words, they recognized in Jesus the Messiah; and seeing him risen, after his crucifixion, they were certain that he was true man and true God, the only-begotten Son come from the Father, full of grace and truth (cf. Jn 1:14).
Benedict XVI's Christmas Message writes:
He who created the world is the same one who called Abraham and revealed his name to Moses: "I am who I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob a God merciful and gracious, abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness (cf. Ex 3:14-15; 34:6).
Benedict XVI's Christmas Message writes:
"The Word became flesh". The proclamation of Christmas is also a light for all peoples, for the collective journey of humanity. "Emmanuel", God-with-us, has come as King of justice and peace.

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jar
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Message 19 of 63 (644924)
12-21-2011 3:06 PM
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12-21-2011 2:56 PM


Re: biblical references are for protestants.
I have little problem blaming him, after all, what is the point of having guilt if you cannot delegate it?
But no, that post was simply a response to the assertion that " biblical references are for protestants. "
Christianity has a long, honored tradition of simply taking over most everything from earlier religions. After all, Christianity remade Passover into Easter, Shavout into Pentecost.

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Message 51 of 63 (645200)
12-24-2011 9:04 AM
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12-23-2011 11:14 PM


Re: Scrooge Weighs In
The Council of Nicaea was not held in Rome but rather in "Nicaea" which is in Turkey.
Constantine called the Bishops together but did not preside over any of the meetings or even have a vote.
Easter was already a holiday, the issue since it is a floating holiday was to agree on the method to calculate when Easter fell.
The Council of Nicaea did not centralize the Bishopric.

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Message 53 of 63 (645244)
12-24-2011 4:46 PM
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12-24-2011 4:25 PM


Re: Scrooge Weighs In
I'm sorry but that is just more nonsense and misrepresentation.
Christianity had a history going back hundreds of years before Constantine of taking existing holy days, traditions and holy sites of other religions and incorporating them into Christianity. Even Paul used that tactic.
The Council of Nicaea did not centralize the Bishopric and in fact recognized that both the Bishop of Jerusalem and Alexandria would hold position of priority.
Constantine had nothing to do with Christianity adopting Sunday as their Sabbath; that was done by Christians to help differentiate themselves as a separate religion and not just another Jewish sect long before Constantine.
Easter is simply the adoption of Passover from the Jews and came long before Constantine.
Christmas is simply the adoption of the Winter Solstice.
Pentecost was simply Christianity adopting Shavout.
Have you ever read the Bible or studied anything about Christian history?

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