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I'm pretty sure I would have agreed with you. I had no specific thoughts at the time, just general ones along the lines of, "Oh, God, this is going to be a big mess." In any event you were right:From Casualties of the Iraq War:

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As of May 29, 2012, according to the U.S. Department of Defense casualty website, there were 4,425 total deaths (including both killed in action and non-hostile) and 32,223 wounded in action (WIA) as a result of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

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From Casualties of the September 11 attacks:

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During the September 11 attacks, 2,996 people were killed: 2,977 victims and 19 of the perpetrators.[1] These immediate deaths included 246 victims on the four planes, 2,606 victims inside the World Trade Center and in the surrounding area, and 125 victims at the Pentagon.

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--Percy

What did Quakers do when barbarians were at the gates? I believe self-defense was allowed. Well, sure, but I think Omnivorous's post (which NoNukes was replying to) was acknowledging the emotions while lamenting the consequences of our inability to fine-tune our targeting down to single individuals. Sure we're angry about the innocent lives lost here at their hands, but what about the innocent lives lost there at our hands?--Percy

Carly Simon today revealed that her 1972 hit song You're So Vain was about three men, not one: Carly Simon Spills a Big 'You're So Vain' Secret. Simon long ago confirmed that the second verse was about Warren Beatty, but many then concluded the entire song was about Beatty. Turns out the other two verses were about other men, but she doesn't say who. This changes the meaning of the song from one of rebuke to more a commentary on the nature of men, or at least of men that Carly Simon used to date.Now if we can just find out what she and Billie Joe threw off the Tallahatchie Bridge, and what, exactly, did mama see down by the schoolyard? In related news, Bob Dylan is now appearing in a TV commercial with Watson.--PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.