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Is morality absolute or relative?

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06-10-2006 7:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 7 by Rob
06-10-2006 7:05 PM

Rob writes:
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I just think that if morality exists, then it must necessarily be absolute.
Show me a moral absolutist, and I will show you a moral relativist who absolutely wants to impose his relative morals on everybody else.
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06-10-2006 10:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Rob
06-10-2006 7:32 PM

I challenged Rob's view:
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nwr writes:
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Show me a moral absolutist, and I will show you a moral relativist who absolutely wants to impose his relative morals on everybody else.
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Rob's response was name calling:
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Rob writes:
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Your quite right roadkill...
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I rest my case.
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06-10-2006 11:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 58 by Rob
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Re: lets be fair now... I've always admitted when I'm outdone...
There are no crimes unless there are morals... If we're just making them up, then tell us so, and quit judging other people...
What makes something a crime, is that it is contrary to the laws. Laws and morals are not the same thing.
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Incidently, laws are made by humans, so are relative to the decisions of those humans.
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06-11-2006 12:03 AM 		Reply to: Message 78 by Rob
06-11-2006 12:00 AM

Re: lets be fair now... I've always admitted when I'm outdone...
Incidently, laws are made by humans, so are relative to the decisions of those humans
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Do humans have the right to impose their morality?
Again, you are confusing laws and morality.
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The members legislative bodies have the right to impose laws, subject to the constraints of the constitution.
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06-11-2006 11:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 117 by Rob
06-11-2006 11:17 AM

Re: Try sticking to the topic Robhis very well
It seems to me that Lewis was familliar with discussions like these on morality. He continues:
[quote from Lewis elided]
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To me, that quoted text reads like an account of moral relativity.
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footnote: those long boldface quotes are too garish and hurt the eyes.
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