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Author Topic:   Is morality absolute or relative?
Coragyps
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Message 17 of 150 (320152)
06-10-2006 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Rob
06-10-2006 7:15 PM


You shall not make a graven image.

Would that be only statues, or also cartoons, dollar bills with Washington on them, and photographs? An early English version said:
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."

Does this suggest that we should stone to death all artists who draw people better than my pitiful stick figures? Heck, I used to draw a pretty good horsie when I was about seven....


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Coragyps
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Message 23 of 150 (320164)
06-10-2006 7:35 PM
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06-10-2006 7:28 PM


If there wasn't a violation...

But there was a violation. Societies have standards. We expect people to abide by them. Picking up firewood on Saturday is not a stoning-to-death offense in Western cultures like it was in Hebrew times. That's changed.


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Coragyps
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Message 28 of 150 (320172)
06-10-2006 7:47 PM
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06-10-2006 7:39 PM


Sorry, no of course not. Bad humor...

So you don't hold that morality is absolute. I understand now.

Discussion over.


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Coragyps
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Message 30 of 150 (320174)
06-10-2006 7:51 PM
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06-10-2006 7:43 PM


are you saying that it was ok for the Jews to stone people because it was their way of living?

Pretty damn barbaric for a completely victimless "crime," is what I think. So, no, that's not ok with me:but I wasn't there back then. I haven't yet heard of a society that meets my ideas of a Good Society.


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Coragyps
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Message 34 of 150 (320183)
06-10-2006 7:59 PM
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06-10-2006 7:53 PM


I do hold that morality is absolute. And the wages of sin is death.

So those who work on the Sabbath or draw pictures of fish are irretrievably doomed for their heinous sin. That makes perfect sense....

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Coragyps
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Message 37 of 150 (320191)
06-10-2006 8:04 PM
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06-10-2006 7:59 PM


I'm the one judging other people?

And I'm fairly aware of my shortcomings. I travelled over 240 miles today. The Sabbath. But somehow I just can't bring myself to give a red rat's ass about making atonement or seeking forgiveness for that.

Hell, I'm going to go draw an animal! An easy one, though.


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Coragyps
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Message 38 of 150 (320192)
06-10-2006 8:06 PM
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06-10-2006 8:02 PM


Your missing so much my friend... we're all condemnded!

I spent over forty years listening to that bullshit. I've given it up.


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Coragyps
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Message 50 of 150 (320239)
06-10-2006 8:52 PM
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06-10-2006 8:25 PM


How can morality be absolute? Because without it, life would destroy itself.

So carp and grasshoppers have absolute morality? Last I looked, they hadn't destroyed themselves.

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Message 71 of 150 (320309)
06-10-2006 11:05 PM
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06-10-2006 10:59 PM


Re: don't you get it... imean c'mon!
the absolute meaning of life

My considered opinion is that there ain't no such thing.


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Coragyps
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Message 134 of 150 (320528)
06-11-2006 2:11 PM
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06-11-2006 1:45 PM


Re: Topic Rob
Otherwise this exchange is meaningless.

This bit seems to be close to accurate, at least. :rolleyes:


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