Is morality absolute or relative?

Topic Rob.Is morality absolute or relative?We are still waiting for you to show why you think morality is absolute.You have not yet given us an example of absolute morality.I can think of examples of things that are moral, such as "Love others as you love yourself". That is moral. But it is not absolute. It is realtive. Love others as you love yourself.So we still await an example of absolute morality, an example that can be supported.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Yeah I used to be too in the sense you mean... then I found out it is actually true, and left the religious stuff behind! I've been born agian.

Yeah, so was I. Born again, "personal relationship, not religion", all that. Yeah, totally. Totally had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, just like you.Except, it's all fake. It's all false. That's what I learned.

I have explained myself very clearly! You just can't hear me.If you don't mind, allow me to quote one of my favorite sources... -Jesus Christ-RobEdited by Rob, : No reason given.

Sorry, totally off topic.The issue is YOUR topic. from Message 91

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

If that is true Crash, it is ABSOLUTE!Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

Is morality absolute???Yes! And the only way that can be true is if Jesus Chrsit is who He claimed to be.Just because you don't see that, doesn't make it off topic!Some people get it! Hopefully someone here might even catch on. If so, it isn't because I win an argument, but because God speaks to those He is calling!Ps. If morality was relative, and I believed that. You would not be safe! Because I understand the implications! So does Charles Manson!Enjoy your achievments and prominence in whatever illusory capacity drugs you jar. It's as high as you'll ever know and won't last nearly as long as you think...

I just wanted to say that I have been very impressed with the tolerance given in this thread as to the topics tangents. Even if the topic tracks are a measure of interpretation, I have seen here far more lenience than I expected. Please don't misunderstand as I am not thanking the administrators.Such developments I think are far more Divine...Rob

What is it about you fundametalist Christians that you are always threatening folk and misprepresenting what others say?You started this thread, The topic is "Is morality absolute or relative?"I asked a simple question related to your topic and instead of supporting your position, you turn to threats.Is that what you think Christianity is all about? Do you think that is the lesson that Jesus came to teach?And you say I am not the Christian.You are but a Goat.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Perhaps I am jar, perhaps I am.What you will never understand jar, is that your position... is a fundamentalist position.This has been a most enlightening experience for me. I have been humbled, and as a result, exalted!

Whoa I missed the title!I did no such thing! I said that if I believed what you said about morality that you would not be safe!I do not believe what you say about morality, therefore you are quite safe.I do not condemn you at all, and do not think it is 'people like you' destroying the world (that is how you view things). I know that it is people that are destroying the world. I consider myself among them. You falsely elevate yourself above the fray...So, who is the fundamentalist??? It is the accuser!I am only here to speak the truth. And the truth is that you are a sinner who needs to repent. I do hope you'll find the truth!Your paranoid too!Rob Edited by Rob, : No reason given.Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

"Woe to you Pharisees, because you love the most important seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. 44 "Woe to you, because you are like unmarked graves, which men walk over without knowing it." 45 One of the experts in the law answered him, "Teacher, when you say these things, you insult us also." 46 Jesus replied, "And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them. 47 "Woe to you, because you build tombs for the prophets, and it was your forefathers who killed them. 48 So you testify that you approve of what your forefathers did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. 49 Because of this, God in his wisdom said, 'I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute.' 50 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all. 52 "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering." 53 When Jesus left there, the Pharisees and the teachers of the law began to oppose him fiercely and to besiege him with questions, 54 waiting to catch him in something he might say.

It's really simple Rob, in fact it is your topic.Topic Rob.Is morality absolute or relative?We are still waiting for you to show why you think morality is absolute.You have not yet given us an example of absolute morality.I can think of examples of things that are moral, such as "Love others as you love yourself". That is moral. But it is not absolute. It is realtive. Love others as you love yourself.So we still await an example of absolute morality, an example that can be supported.Instead of sermonizing how about supplying some evidence in support of your position.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

WE??? Your the only one left who doesn't get it jar?Because if morality does not reflect reality, and cohere with the assumed purpose and meaning of life, then it does not exist.And if it only exists because we say it does... Well then, I don't really give a rats rump what we say. At that point, all your philosophy is mere abstraction and meaninglessness. At that point, a Jew in Hitlers Germany was a mere statistic in natures cosmic evolutionary crapshoot! Sucks to be you I guess!If I believed that, I would live exclusively for me...I agree with you that murder is wrong. The only difference is you think that it makes you civilized to see that, and I think it proves we're murderers in need of the law giver!You will never understand this jar. Not from what I see. I pray and believe that God see's more than I.Your not capable of the humility required to see into the mirror of God's law. You don't have the strength to see yourself for what you are.And that is a pity, because He has the strength to forgive what you cannot! He died for you too. Your the only one who believes your own lies! Even I forgive you. You just don't think you need any forgiving.Well, I forgive you for that too. And I know God does.

Is it really humble to boast of your humility?

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