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Author Topic:   Tentativity and The Bible
Straightshot
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From: Mitchell SD USA
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Message 31 of 48 (767362)
08-28-2015 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by lightz1
12-11-2014 9:28 PM


Response to the content of the OP:

There is a way that seems right to a man that will only bring him death

The biblical account of creation is the only one to rely upon .... communicated by the Creator Himself

Things to ponder about the biblical account:

Why did the earth need a makeover about 6000 years ago?

How old is the universe?

How long has mankind been on the planet?

Why are all of the other planets in the earth's solar system uninhabitable?

Is the earth and the others of the same age?

When was this event? [Job 38:1-7] .... who was present?

Why is there a breaching of time lapse between Genesis 1:1 ..... and Genesis 1:2?

What was the condition of the earth as viewed from the planet and why?

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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 33 of 48 (767448)
08-29-2015 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by ringo
08-29-2015 12:21 PM


Try this Ringo

Study and learn the Lord's prophetic word and then test it against recorded history

You will find that the congruence is 100% accurate

All prophecy in the Bible is given in advance .... and then always comes to pass exactly as written

The prophets lived at different times and in different places, and yet they all see the very same things

There is no way that their projections could just be coincidental

So their inspirations must be coming from one source [2 Peter 1:16-21]

Give it a try

It worked for me .... and I am a big skeptic and a realist

It is essential for a skeptic to discover that the Bible is what it claims to be, the rest is a matter of seeking the balance

I have no affiliation with any organizational religion and never have .... so if I can do this .... you can

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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 35 of 48 (767479)
08-29-2015 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by ringo
08-29-2015 1:07 PM


ringo

I don't have to prove anything to you, but understand that the Lord knows the ending of the beginning of all things in advance

Both Nebuchadnezzar and Alexander the great attacked Tyre [the original coastal island city] .... and it is this Tyre that is no more

http://www.padfield.com/1994/tyre.html

Also understand that when the Lord brings destruction to a city or nation, the destruction comes to the people of the day .... but this does not mean that future cities will not be built later on the same topography

The fact is that Tyre was destroyed just as Ezekiel projected

Cities have been built on the top of other previous cities in the Middle East for centuries .... the are called tels

Instead of reconstructing and repairing the original city, the same locations are then used to build another on the top of the tel .... but the original city is not reconstructed

So when the Lord brings destruction upon a people and their city He does it .... what is built again is another matter

Here is another example

The Lord brought the Assyrians against the ancient city of Damascus in Syria [Isaiah 17:1]

So for the people of the day their city was completely destroyed into a ruinous heap .... Damascus no longer existed

However, the city was later re-built

The point is that the Lord gives His prophets advanced warning that judgment is coming because the people of the city or a nation have brought it upon themselves by their behavior which is unacceptable to the Lord

So He sets out to destroy their cultural environment of the intransigent populations living there at the time

When a Bible prophet makes a dire prediction against a city or nation that refuses to repent and turn to God it will come to pass .... this is the way of the Lord, and He can and will make good on His intents

The early Island nation of Tyre was warned and when the Lord's warning by His prophet was ignored, the Lord brought the destruction as promised

Here is an example of a future and similar event that is coming [Revelation 8:6-12; 14:8; 17:16-18; 18]

Evidence bears truth .... the predictions of His prophets always come to pass .... and the same for future events will come to pass just as written

Because of this one can know that the Lord is in control of His creation and that His Word recorded in the scriptures of the Bible is true .... all of it .... from cover to cover

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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 37 of 48 (767504)
08-30-2015 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Dr Adequate
08-29-2015 4:56 PM


When the Lord warns and tells of things to come related to the destruction of a people and their city or nation because of their intransigent behavior it will always come to pass .... and the evidence is always proven by the historical record

This does not mean that He erred just because another later human effort to build again in the same location takes place

His will is always accomplished in all that He sets out to do .... no doubt

He knows the ending from the beginning of all things

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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 39 of 48 (767527)
08-30-2015 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Coragyps
08-30-2015 1:13 PM


I see that your rating doesn't look very high Coragyps

Where is Snyder, Texas?

I do know what your problem is .... most people have it

Here is what you need to do .... and if you do, then you will be able to discern the Lord's prophetic prose

If you don't, you will never get it

John
3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 42 of 48 (767577)
08-30-2015 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by ringo
08-30-2015 2:18 PM


Two different prophecies

The first fulfilled

.... the next still pending

Do you understand that time moves on a linear continuum?

Circular lapsing is not the way the universe works .... what is past .... is past

What is future .... will be .... future

No "ringo" business allowed

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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 44 of 48 (767705)
09-01-2015 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by ringo
08-31-2015 12:06 PM


Literally fulfilled

Nothing you can do


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Straightshot
Member (Idle past 1063 days)
Posts: 89
From: Mitchell SD USA
Joined: 08-25-2015


Message 47 of 48 (767739)
09-01-2015 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by ringo
09-01-2015 11:46 AM


You have been tested and I see no good purpose for continuing any dialogue with you

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