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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Should this person get free healthcare? Universal healthcare is not free healthcare.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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There are ZERO fast food places in the entire country of Scandinavia. Oni has definitely been hacked or he is pulling huge mind game. The Oni I know and could have loved would never make the mistake of calling Scandinavia a country. The statement in a sense is true because Scandinavia is not a country. Sweden
quote:Swedish cuisine - Wikipedia There are McDonalds in all of the Scandinavian Countries. Sweden 230Norway 68 Denmark 83 Source Oni would never be this sloppy.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I pay for my insurance out of my paycheck. With universal healthcare you would pay for insurance through your taxes Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
My point was that I pay for my healthcare...
As do people under universal healthcare.
Do you have a point or are you content in being pointless?
If you would stop letting your disdain for me from clouding your ability to reason you would see that my post in relation to the conversation makes my point quite self evident. Strag evidently sees my point, why don't you. Still trying to figure out why you claim you pay for your insurance and those that ahve universal healthcare do not. Why does a payment to an insurance company count, but payment to the government to provide the same services not count? Please explain the point of this reasoning.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
The whole logic of your argument in relation to this thread escapes me.
Your statement that you pay for your insurance through your paycheck evidently has no point in this discussion. As I originally asked what is the point of that comment. Obviously a few of us have misinterpreted your intentions and do not understand the point of that comment. Do you feel like explaining the point you are trying to make or are you just going to throw bombs?
CS writes: Do you have a point or are you content in being pointless?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
It just seems to me that we do a lot of medical research here at hospitals that also provide care. That's gotta drive up the cost. Why? Please provide the reasons that its "gotta drive up costs". Also, where do you get you information that "a lot of medical research here at hospitals that also provide care". I am sure there is medical research done in hospitals, but a lot is also done in universities. Do you have any research or figures to back up your claims? I have serious concerns that your beliefs conflict with reality.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Yes here in the US also. Not sure where the whole higher cost idea comes from.
I am not sure what the hell CS's point is on this....
And if you ask for the point he lashes out with a juvenile response.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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Its not as simple as "they're socialized and cheeper ergo we should socialize too". I know of no serious proposal for socialized medicine in the US. Universal Healthcare does not equal socialized medicine. That being said I do not think there is a problem with socialized medicine. If everyone is so against socialized things how about we privatize all the roads, police and fire protection and also the military. I mean socialism is evil isn't it?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Even if we were to socailize it, it still might cost a lot more than other countries and look unjustifiably expensive. Again I need to ask who is proposing socializing? Do you understand that Universal healthcare is not the same as socialized medicine. You can keep ignoring me but I will keep pointing out your strawman.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Then why do you keep bringing up Socialized medicine?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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This would qualify it as socialized medicine. Socialized medicine would be if the government controls every level. This is much different from Universal healthcare. Eliminating the insurance companies does not make it socialized medicine. It makes it single payer healthcare. Still not socialized medicine. If the government owned and controlled the clinics and hospitals and healthcare providers were government employees then it would be socialized medicine.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I agree. Oni has bought into right wing talking points and crap on this.
he should read of which he speaks.Sitemap on UpCounsel http://www.slip-and-sue.com/...offee-spill-lawsuit-revisited Reality rarely confirms to what we think we know.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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