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Chuck77 Inactive Member
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Top Ten Signs You're a Foolish Atheist (Note - i'm not the author and this was written in responce to "Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian")
10. You vigorously deny the existence of God, yet you frequently blame Him for all the "evils" in the world, all the natural disasters, and everything else under the sun that is wrong in modern society. 9. You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when creationists say that people were created in the image and likeness of God, but you have no problem with the evolutionist claim that we all evolved from slime by a cosmic accident. 8. You criticize fundamental Christians who believe the Bible, and say that it can't possibly be true because it's just a book written by mere men, yet you never question any of Darwin's writings or Richard Dawkins' books. 7. You can't seem to understand the primary differences between fundamental Muslims and fundamental Christians (hint: strap-on TNT. Plus - Muhammad says, kill innocent people and yourself if you love me. Jesus Christ said, I’ll die for you because I love you). 6. You say the Bible is full of fairytales and fables, yet you believe all life forms including plants, trees, insects, birds, fish, reptiles and mammals evolved from one species into another - As if evolution isn’t the biggest fairytale of them all. 5. You laugh at the Supernatural, even though scientists have calculated the odds of life forming by natural processes to be estimated less than 1 chance in 10 to the 40,ooo power — But you find nothing wrong with believing that billions of years full of random mutations would result in the impossible. 4. You accuse fundamental Christians of being intolerant, judgmental and hateful, while you foam at the mouth calling them freaking lunatics, ignorant, weak-minded, stupid fundies, and hateful bigots. 3. You ignore scientific concepts like cause and effect, and you don't realize that a closed system can be defined however the observer wants, so you throw out technological phrases to try to ignore the implications of thermodynamics by saying the laws of physics are not set in stone. 2. While all evidence, logic and reasoning point to a Creator and absolute truth, you prefer to hide behind relativism and a theory of evolution which does not, in fact, describe the creation of the universe at all, or why concepts of good and evil or morality exist. 1. *Atheism fails to adequately explain the existence of eternal, unchanging truths, for it rejects the existence of an eternal unchanging mind. Atheism cannot offer man any eternal significance whatsoever. Temporary meaning in life is insufficient, for our accomplishments die with the death of the universe -- there is no ultimate purpose in a universe void of God. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member
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Well, i'm not sure where to start. To many responces.
This site needs more Creationists. Anyone know why no Creationists stick around here? My opinion is because the moderation is so bad and doesn't allow for debate. I was accused of running away from a few threads that I was participating in just fine. Then Percy pretty much didn't want my thoughts, ideas or opinions on the subject. He insists I/we provide other evidence than the evidence we have. That I can't understand. You want Scientific evidence from peer reviwed or whatever from Scientists who are against Creationism? So when I provide Creationist' evidence it isn't good enough. I would have gotten around to presenting the evidence Creations have but it can't ever get there because of the complete and utter bias this site has. It's such a great debate site with great moderation supposedly, that it only lets one side of the debate express itself? Why can't Creationists express themselves here without being shot down? We are Creationists. Do you want our views and evidence or not? The answer is no, you don't. It's obvious this site isn't about learning thru discussion because if it was the non-Creationists here would be willing to learn about our sides views and accept our arguments on the entire forum, not just in certain sections. If the Creationist is not willing to accept evolution and it's explanations those Creationists are considered ignorant and unwilling to learn. What about the evolutionist' learning about Creationism? It's unfortunate that Creationists aren't allowed to argue/debate their positions here the way they want to. There would be much more debate. It's Percy's site, who is an evolutionist. His rules. It took me to long to realize no Creationists are allowed to be themselves here. Ask Buz, Mazzy and all the Creationist members who either left or are currently suspended. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member
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There's even a rating system here that shows the bias of the site. Yeah, learning thru discussion. Keep telling yourselves that.
I'm not here to debate anymore. This site doesn't allow for the Creationist to debate their postion from their perspective.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Percy writes: Several items on your list confuse atheism with science. And all are, to understate the case, inaccurate. Percy, why is this an issue with you? Aren't you a deist?
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Modulous writes: In all fairness - someone that holds both that a person does not exist and that they are also to blame for something...is a fool. If that person happens to be God, then they are a foolish atheist. Exactly as advertised. Holy smokes. Some clarity on the 153rd post.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
bluegenes writes: Think it through. Only a theist could do that. Huh? Only a theist could accuse God of the i'll of this world as one's who know He exists? On the contrary. We know God is not the one causing the evil in this world.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
I didn't ever say the earth was a closed system. I would argue that the Universe is a closed system.
From what I understand after a time things balance out (like water would cool at room temperature). Since the Sun is still burning Hot it would seem the Universe is not that old. Hence the 2nd lots...
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Dr Adequate quotes writes: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." --- Isaiah 45:7. Oh my...are you an atheist Dr Adequate? Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Do you need a lesson on the lots Dr Adequate?
Or should we have a lesson on what plagairism is first?
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
I do believe the Bible yes. Do you want Scripture to back up that God loves the world and is not responsible for the evil in it?
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Obviously I know one can argue against what we believe and not have to believe the one we believe exists in order to argue against it. I know this Modulous. Have I accused anyone here- one single person- of doing this?
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
frako writes: the universe is expanding so technically it isn't a closed system since more and more room is here everyday. So a balloon that is being blown up and is expanding is not a closed system?
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Modulous writes: I'm simply pointing out that in almost 100% of cases where you find an atheist who is suggesting that God is morally culpable - it is not because the atheist actually believes that God exists. Geez, of course I can assure you i know this. Did you think I didn't?
As such, in almost 100% of cases where an atheist is accused of foolishness for making this mistake, the mistake is actually being made by a theist who cannot quite grasp that the atheist is taking god's existence as a given or as hypothetically shown - for the purposes of debate. Of course I know this. Tho, we don't know everyone's hearts. Some atheists could be agnostic deep down and are trying to find there way thru debate... Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
NoNukes writes: Your problem appears to be that there is discussion and debate going on that you want to participate in but are ill equipped to do so. And rather than taking the time to learn more about your opponents arguments or to hone your own debating skills, you want to whine about being mistreated and then claim some solidarity with creationists like Buz. What are you anyway? Can you clarify your position here? I'ts hard to tell with all of your wishywashy posts throughout this forum. Are you: A)Christian B)Agnostic C)Atheist D)Theistic evolutionist E)Does not know I think I saw you arguing against macroevolution on another thread, not to mention all the other posts on various threads where no one knows what position you're arguing for. Atleast with me I try to be consistant and outspoken with what I believe. You seem like you need validation here and need to be accepted yet are trying to slowly let out your postion little by little. Do you even know what your postion is? Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Hey Buz. I havn't been online much the past few days but am enjoying reading your posts.
For such a "silly" list it sure is getting a lot of responses huh Buz? For instance:
Percy writes: Here's the way I think an informed Christian and believer in creationism should respond: "Hey, guys, don't get yourselves all wound up in a tizzy, we're just having a bit of fun. We know atheists don't blame God for anything or think we all evolved from slime or all that other stuff, but you gotta admit, it resonates and it's funny. Get a sense of humor!"But I doubt we'll see anything like this. Yeah Percy and I would think the same applies to atheists or anyone else who feels compelled to respond to this so-called silly and inacurrate list with their reponse being something like this: "Hey guys, this is such a silly rediculous list it isn't even worth responding or giving attention to." Yet, almost 300 messages later it still has lots of steam. Not bad for a "silly and rediculous" list huh? Percy you have 23 posts in this thread alone! I havn't seen you comment in the Coffee House this mamy times since i've been a member here. Wierd for a thread that seems so obviously beneath you and not worth your time (well from your posts atleast it appears that way) and yet, here you are, debating the list with Buz. I like the list, that's why I posted it. It matters not what you or any atheists here say. Debate away Pecry. It just gives the list more credence than it already had. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given. Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.
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