subbie writes:
"Our Father who art in heaven...."
"...Father, Son and Holy Ghost...."
Yes, he, Jehovah, the only evident existing god resides in some specific location of our Universe, according to the Biblical record.
It seems to me that one of the themes of Christianity is that God is the ultimate father figure.
He's god of all, father of holy Spirit born humans who willingly call upon him, receiving the salvation which he offers all who repent of sin, receiving his son, Jesus, as lord and savior.
He is described as having perfect love, perfect mercy and perfect justice for all. Justice does not always exonerate. Perfect justice condemns the guilty. We all are guilty, but Jesus filled the role of sacrificial lamb of God, took our guilt upon himself, dying for us that we may live. Thus, no more animal sacrifices, he the guiltless, dying for all that whoever will may be saved. That's the gospel of salvation which loving Jehovah offers, willing that none perish but that all would come to repentance.
subbie writes:
He is also described as being a jealous God and ready, willing and able to condemn anyone who doesn't believe in him and keep (some of) his laws to eternal suffering.
This, of course, makes no sense.
He is described as slow to anger, not willing that any should perish, Jesus coming, not to condemn the world (John 3:17) but to save all who would believe in him and come to him.
subbie writes:
I have a son. I love him unconditionally. He's 20, so my days of having any meaningful say in how he lives his life are dwindling. I have tried to raise him to be a good person. To that end, I have from time to time had to punish him in various ways for various transgressions. It makes me sad when I have to punish him, because I hate to see him unhappy. But I know that sometimes it must be done to try to make him a better person. I have tried to do this in a manner that will teach him what mistake he made and show him not to repeat that mistake. As you can imagine, these efforts have met with mixed success.
The NT says believers in Jesus are God's children. Regarding punishment, it says "Whom he loves, he chastens." One only chastens one's own because he loves them.
On the whole, however, he has turned into an intelligent, compassionate, caring young man, one that, with all the hubris of a parent, I am proud of.
I cannot imagine anything that he could do that would make me want him to spend eternity suffering. It seems that one of the biggest transgressions one can commit against a god is to deny his existence. If my son were to disown me and never want to have anything to do with me again, I would be profoundly sad. There may be nothing that would make me sadder. But I certainly wouldn't want my son to suffer for the rest of this life, much less for all of eternity, just because he disowned me. I might be very angry at him depending on his reasons for disowning me. But wish him to suffer? No. I love him too much to ever want to see him suffer for anything. His well being is more important to me than my own. So the very idea of wanting him to suffer because he offended me is ludicrous beyond words.
subbieSo please, someone, explain to me how the god of the bible can be considered all-loving and still allow anyone to suffer forever, much less impose the suffering on them himself? I don't know what you call that kind of a being, but it sure isn't a father.
Again, he's only father to those who have submitted themselves to him to be their father. He chastens his own children so that they may not be condemned with the ones who have rejected him.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."