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Author Topic:   An ID hypothesis: Front-loaded Evolution
Panda
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Message 102 of 216 (653657)
02-23-2012 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Theodoric
02-23-2012 8:13 AM


Re: A summary
Thoedoric writes:

I find it amazing that you want to support Geno, solely because he has a theistic argument. You do not care if his argument is correct, but it must be because it is theistic. That is disgusting.


Which is ironic since Geno is not presenting a theistic argument.
His argument appears (to me) to be agnostic.

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Panda
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Message 156 of 216 (653802)
02-24-2012 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Theodoric
02-24-2012 9:08 AM


Re: A summary
Theodoric writes:

Still think he is making an agnostic argument?


Maybe 'agnostic' is the wrong word for me to have used.
I think I should have said 'non-specific'.

Geno's intelligent designer has not shown any aspects that would require it to be a god.
(Sure - the designers would need to be more advanced than us, but that does not make them gods.)

As an aside: I have never seen an argument that crosses the 'intelligent designer' -> 'god' divide.
It always falls at the "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" hurdle.
If it was proved/accepted that life on Earth was intentionally seeded/designed/front-loaded, that would still not be an argument for a deity.
Any claim that "design=god" is an argumentum ad ignorantiam.

But I have yet to see Geno make that leap or even hint that he wants to.


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