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Author Topic:   Is homosexuality a natural response to large populations?
Denesha
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Message 8 of 44 (108594)
05-16-2004 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brad
05-14-2004 4:29 PM


Dear Shadow,

I think you’re a clever fellow. I just see one small flaw in your post. Are you sure that the proportion of homosexual was so low as you suggested during the exponential phase of humanity demography? I guess no.

Sylas’s remark is fine. Because of the personality high diversity, homosexual behaviours are likely to appear. As far as I know, an individual becoming homosexual is randomised within a population. The social environment plays a crucial regulation role in the development of this behaviour. I don’t think genetic or “black-boxed” hidden mechanisms are to blame for this.

I can speak only for my self based on the logic of my personal vision, but I consider a strong relation between AIDS menace and female homosexuality. If you fancy it, this is a psychological response to harsh social condition. In term of safety, indeed.

Have a nice day,

Denesha


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Denesha
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Message 13 of 44 (108757)
05-17-2004 5:45 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by RAZD
05-17-2004 12:48 AM


Re: Population Control?
I hope they will never find any gay/lesbian genes. Just because of they could be teased to "cure" this behaviour to fit individuals well in the social establishment. Worse thing to do.

I found somthing here:
http://www.gene-watch.org/programs/privacy/gene-sexuality.html

Official position have be taken by American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association resumed as "trying to change a person's sexual orientation would be wrong".

Not so bad. This if a Gay/lesbian gene is found, indeed.

Denesha

edited by myself: added the link.

This message has been edited by Denesha, 05-17-2004 07:42 AM


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Denesha
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Message 15 of 44 (108824)
05-17-2004 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by RAZD
05-17-2004 2:04 PM


Re: Population Control? Attraction genes?
Dear RAZD,

I still believe that attraction for same sex is hormone mediated. Visual stimulis are hightly efficient either for sex and phobia. IOW the reaction is immediate.

I believe that in dense population, such stimulis could be highjacked because of saturation. This perturbation of the "natural" mechanism of opposit sex recognition, could induce "wrong" attraction target here and here.

Just an idea (perhaps off topic): When proposing assortment of factors, do you think that pheromones could be involved?

Denesha


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Denesha
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Message 18 of 44 (109018)
05-18-2004 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by DC85
05-17-2004 11:34 PM


Re: Lots of questions -- not many answers
DC85,

You're right.

A conclusive work concerning Human ethology here:
http://www.nel.edu/22_5/NEL220501R01_.pdf

If you go out hunting this evening, forget the shawer and perfume.

Denesha


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Denesha
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Message 21 of 44 (111054)
05-28-2004 3:41 AM
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05-28-2004 1:27 AM


Re: new to board - fascinating
Hi Phee,

Interesting ideas. I'm not a specialist but I think visual stimuli are very important for unconscious primary target recognising. Pheromones acts after, to confirm the visual.

A classic exemple, most male teenagers are hypnotised by girls with gorgeous brest (I hope). None of them have really put their nose close on the skin of such "desirable" girls.

Because both input message (visual & chemical) are not always synchronised in modern life, wrong (fun) input interpretations are likely to occur, affecting the psychism of some individuals.

Denesha


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Denesha
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Message 23 of 44 (111061)
05-28-2004 4:20 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by custard
05-28-2004 3:54 AM


Re: new to board - fascinating
Dear Custard,

You have focalised on Gay community, why didn't you get some female homosexual data?

I think that more young girls are bi and lesbian at this age but most of them "turn" hetero after a while. Depending of the potential stock of young Princes.

Denesha


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Denesha
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Message 30 of 44 (111070)
05-28-2004 5:28 AM
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05-28-2004 4:56 AM


Re: new to board - fascinating
Great!

Thank Custard you for this very good compilation paper.
There are indeed many interesting data in it.
Mine are scattered and statistics certainly non realistic on general case.

But I think it's fine to point again the sad position of religions against lesbian (& Gay) people because of the cornerstone of the problem comes from them. Honestly, my preference is now governed by my heart, not by the holy doctrines. A small personal victorious fact, but lovely to appreciate each days. Sin motivated lol!

Gently becoming off topic...

Denesha


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