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Author | Topic: A Plea to understanding: SCIENCE vs INTELLIGENT DESIGN | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Wedge Strategy quote: quote: People object to Intelligent Design being taught in science lessons because it is a religious belief and not science.When IDists stop pushing ID into schools, I expect most people will go back to ignoring Intelligent Design. If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Tanypteryx writes:
Although it seems like semantic quibble, I agree that Mod used an easily misconstrued word. I disagree. I think the proper word is function, not purpose. This has led to people bouncing between Purpose [intent] and Purpose [function].If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Please don't enclose your own text in [qs][/qs].
In fact, I would request that you edit your previous posts and remove them. If you are quoting someone's post then use [qs=Someone]Someone's post[/qs].If you are quoting a phrase from a website or other document then use [quote]Website text[/quote]. If you are not quoting anyone than please don't use quoting BBCode. Thank you.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
I was going to reply in detail, but I realised that there is not a single correct statement in your post.
Clearly, you are too far away from reality to be reached by an internet forum. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
jchardy writes:
None of that is your own. How finely-tuned is it that we exist in the era when vacuum and matter are comparable?Between the Planck time and now, the universe has expanded by a factor of approximately 1032. To be fair, we should consider an interval of logarithmic expansion which is centered around the present time; this would describe a total expansion by a factor of 1064. If we take the transitional period between matter and vacuum to include the time from / M = 0.1 to / M = 10, the universe expands by a factor of 1001/3 100.67. Thus, there is an approximately 1% chance that an observer living in a randomly selected logarithmic expansion interval in the history of our universe would be lucky enough to have M and be the same order of magnitude! Everyone will have their own favorite way of quantifying such unnaturalness, but the calculation here gives some idea of the fine-tuning involved; it is substantial, but not completely ridiculous. Relative to the cosmologic constant:There is room to imagine that we are actually not observing the effects of an ordinary cosmological constant, but perhaps a dark energy source that varies gradually as the universe expands, or even a breakdown of general relativity on large scales. By itself, however, making dark energy dynamical does not offer a solution to the coincidence scandal; purely on the basis of observations, it seems clear that the universe has begun to accelerate recently, which implies a scale at which something new is kicking in. In particular, it is fruitless to try to explain the matter/dark energy coincidence by invoking mechanisms which make the dark energy density time-dependent in such a way as to always be proportional to that in matter. Such a scenario would either imply that the dark energy would redshift away as dark a-3, which from would lead to a non-accelerating universe, or require departures from conventional general relativity of the type which are excluded by other measurements. JCH You stole that and pretended it was your own work. http://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/...rch04/Carroll/Carroll2_3.html Was plagiarism never explained to you while you were studying?If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
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If you want them back you'll have to convince me through PM (Private Messaging) that you'll work at figuring out how to quote and how to indicate where your cut-n-pastes came from.jchardy writes:
jchardy doesn't appear to have figured it out. quote: Edited by Panda, : No reason given.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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jchardy writes:
Luckily we have moved on from classical Darwinism. I find the lack of gradualism (graded evolutionary change sequentially in continuum) a problem with classical Darwinian evolution.And you know that we have moved on from classical Darwinism. Because you wouldn't have used the adjective 'classical' if you did not know. Perhaps you should move your education forward a few years and try something from this century.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Questions are not evidence.
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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jchardy writes:
How? Questions become evidence when they are not answerable.Unanswerable questions simply describe what we do not know. The only thing they could be considered evidence of is our lack of knowledge. jchardy writes:
Questions are not explanations either. The law of parsimony, Occam's razor. "-- principle urging one to select among competing hypotheses that which makes the fewest assumptions and thereby offers the simplest explanation of the effect".If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Panda Member (Idle past 4070 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Shouldn't that be:
jchardy writes: Percy writes:
Apparently not. Any other unknowable things you'd care to discuss?If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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