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Author Topic:   Best Evidence Macro-Evolution
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Message 9 of 164 (654484)
03-01-2012 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by idscience
03-01-2012 8:20 PM


Re: Please define macroevolution first.
The Gish Gallop continues.
What in this post is a definition of Macroevolution? You were asked for a definition. Instead you throw more crap against the wall. Nothing stuck.
Biologic origins: I am not aware of anyone who knows how first life began, do you?
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...a-clue-how-life-began
Universe: Hawking believing that universes can create themselves from nothing because of laws like gravity exist, is an indicator to me that is pretty much up in the air. So what is left to argue about? common ancestry.
It is your topic. It would be nice if you stayed on topic. But alas I am sure it is to much to ask.

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Message 28 of 164 (654508)
03-01-2012 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by idscience
03-01-2012 9:25 PM


idscience read PLEASE DEFINE MACROEVOLUTION FIRST
You have been told many times in a short period of time that until you give your definition of Macroevolution there can be no discussion. You may be arguing something that is not the same definition as we have. Actually I am quite sure you are. So either define it or take your trollish behaviour elsewhere.

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Message 39 of 164 (654522)
03-02-2012 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by idscience
03-02-2012 12:18 AM


No he cannot define Macroevolution
Evidently you cannot even define the term you want to discuss. It must be really hard to be against something if you don't even know what it is.
Oh and please stop the Gish Gallop. It just makes you look like an incompetent buffoon. Define Macro-evolution and stay on that topic.
Oh yeah have you ever heard of spell check or proofreading. You might want to learn about There and They're. That's a real silly mistake that stands out and really makes it tough to take you seriously.

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Message 82 of 164 (654592)
03-02-2012 9:04 AM
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03-02-2012 8:26 AM


Re: Advisory
Alas, this does not seem to be idboys definition. So I guess this thread should be closed.
idboy writes:
The gophers are still gophers and the lice are still lice. Now if one of lice turned into a gopher I would be stumped.
Message 48
idboy writes:
macro evolution has to be able to produce novel morphology.
A wing has to be built from a limb,
a leg from a fin.
Message 67
I will not ay anymore as it will result in a suspension.
But this says it all.
idboy writes:
I am sure you said a lot here, but I didn't read it.
Message 49
Edited by Theodoric, : subtitle change

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Message 109 of 164 (654667)
03-02-2012 5:32 PM
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03-02-2012 4:35 PM


Re: Is it a duck or what?
What about all the other living fossils that have survived hundreds of millions of years with no changes.
Provide examples and evidence please.
I would consider this micro. A variation, not a transformation.
Nah not worth a suspension.

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Message 148 of 164 (654933)
03-05-2012 5:25 PM
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03-05-2012 4:38 PM


No one seems interested that the best microbiology has been able to accomplish is 1+1=2.
Because no one with a scientific mind would think it could do anything else. Anything else would disprove the TOE.
The only people that think 1+1 should equal anything but 2 would be believes in magic or some magic sky daddy.
You have a lot of word salad here and nothing countering all the evidence against your religious beliefs.
My blog on this subject is called "evolution's shell game"WordPress.com — Get a Free Blog Here
I highly doubt this little advertisement here is going to get you many hits. If you arguments there are as non-existent as they here then as they say; You got nothing.

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Message 161 of 164 (655003)
03-06-2012 12:39 PM


Summary
This was a classic EVC thread. ID/Creo posted an OP stating there is no evidence. Reams of evidence was presented. The original poster did nothing to counter evidence just claimed he wouldn't accept the evidence.
All IDboy and BigAl did this whole thread was hand wave, and go on a Gish gallop. Oh almost forgot meals and meals of word salad. They again, as always, have nothing to counter the evidence except to say it isn't evidence.
ID/Creos will never ever learn. They truly believe that attempting to undermine the TOE will somehow strengthen their pet ideas. The TOE could be utterly destroyed as a Theory today(by scientific research) and that would in no way strengthen ID or creationism. They have an utter lack of understanding the nature of evidence and why they need it, if they want their ideas to be taken seriously.
Ain't gonna happen. They have nothing, know they have nothing, so resort to attacking the TOE.
Nothing new to see here folks. Move along.

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