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Message 68 of 164 (654571)
03-02-2012 6:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 67 by idscience
03-02-2012 6:13 AM

Re: so can you define macroevolution or not?
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photoreceptor cells complex. That simple first eye. Photoreceptor cells are blind to selection unless there is transmission, reception and translation of the signals. Otherwise the organism has no advantage.
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Macro-E has to demonstrate how a sensory system like this can be built randomly without knowledge of purpose.
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flagellum motor? How does macro-E build these systems one piece at a time if they are blind to selection until they are built and working?
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As these are standard ID arguments - in fact the eye 'problem' was posed by Darwin himself - that have been answered many times, I assume you are looking for something additional to the answers you will have already read (assuming that you have read beyond what only creationist publish).
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Perhaps if you pick one and say why it doesn't satisfy you and we can have a go at that for you.
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03-05-2012 12:07 PM 		Reply to: Message 121 by jar
03-05-2012 9:54 AM

Re: What is macro-evolution?
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It seems to me that it really is that simple.
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I think it's even simpler. I think many that use the term think it means a cow turning into a whale or, more usually, monkeys into men.
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They simply can't accept that 'proper' animals - ie not bacteria - can change over time to the extent that the ToE claims that they do.
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To be fair, it IS a mind boggling concept and I still shake my head at it sometimes.
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