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Author Topic:   Labor Pains In Colorado
crashfrog
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Message 9 of 166 (656280)
03-17-2012 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Jon
03-17-2012 10:46 AM


Why does the apartment have to have two bedrooms?
For the rest of the family, I presume.

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crashfrog
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Message 10 of 166 (656281)
03-17-2012 1:13 PM
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03-17-2012 1:04 PM


Who said there's a whole family living in the thing?
Oh, I see. Families are for the well-off. (Coffee is for closers.)
But wait - isn't birth control only for the well-off, too?

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crashfrog
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Message 20 of 166 (656299)
03-17-2012 4:09 PM
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03-17-2012 2:02 PM


Yes. What part of that strikes you as unreasonable?
How many people's income should it require to rent a single apartment?

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crashfrog
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Message 31 of 166 (656323)
03-17-2012 4:37 PM
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03-17-2012 4:10 PM


How much less do you think it is, Jon? Do you think it's half?

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crashfrog
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Message 41 of 166 (656458)
03-18-2012 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Buzsaw
03-17-2012 10:00 PM


Re: Who's To Blame
However, they not only oppose right to work and prevent competitive bidding on behalf of middle class taxpayers but shoot themselves in the foot by causing companies to move their operations abroad, etc.
Buz, a Chinese auto worker makes roughly $120 a month and works a 12-hour shift.
Unions or not, what American could possibly work for that? Even wages at the non-union auto plants in right-to-work states aren't anywhere close to that low. Who would spend 12 hours a day at a job that wouldn't even cover rent? A fifth of the rent? That's like paying money to work.
I mean, I'll meet you halfway - I think many unions have entrenched their power at the expense of the workers they represent; I think they've crafted rules that made sense at the time, but now leave union shops unable to adapt to changing circumstances. I think unions do too much to shelter the incompetent and extract rents. But come on, you can't lay offshoring at the feet of unions. There are just no circumstances under which an American could underbid the Chinese wage schedule because the GDP and cost of living between the two nations is just so different. And you may not be aware but all Chinese workers are unionized.

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