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Son Goku
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Message 1 of 77 (657124)
03-26-2012 6:41 AM


I was wondering did anybody else here grow up with no knowledge of Creationism? I don't
think I ever met anybody in my youth who actually thought the world was made in seven days by God only a couple of thousand years ago. I was completely surprised when I found this out in my late teenage years.
Was this the case with anybody else?

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Son Goku
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Message 4 of 77 (657131)
03-26-2012 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Jon
03-26-2012 6:55 AM


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It might help us orient ourselves if you give us an idea as to how long ago you were a child.
I was a child in the late 80s and early 90s in western rural Ireland. My family was never very religious and my grandmother believed in the pooka and the fairy folk as much as in the Christian god, like many others in that part of the country.
I encountered creationism in university where there was a society called "The Christian Union". They had a debate one day about the origins of man. I went along to it having no idea what to expect and was quite surprised.

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Son Goku
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Message 46 of 77 (659468)
04-16-2012 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by ICANT
04-15-2012 8:10 PM


Re: Creationism
Hi ICANT,
No, I am not a creationist in the overwhelmingly most common meaning of that term. That is, I do not believe that a literal reading of the bible describes the history of mankind or the universe in an accurate way.
ICANT writes:
I gather from Son's posts to me that he seems to believe the universe began to exist from a point called a singularity which is nothing but a place where the math will not work.
Think about this logically. How could I believe that the universe came from a place where maths doesn't work? That would be like believing that the universe came from a place where a story "wasn't written".
What do I think:
1. The universe from today until about 13.7 billion years is well described by the standard cosmological model, which is mostly derived from General Relativity.
2. I know that that model stops working at a certain point 13.7 billion years.
So, I have a scientific knowledge of the last 13.7 billion years of cosmic history. At no point do I make a claim of the universe's origin.
However I do think that West Semitic literature written around three thousand years does not contain an accurate depiction of what occurred.
This thread is about how frequently people met individuals during their youth who did think West Semitic literature written around three thousand years actually describes the history of the world.
I hope that is clear enough.
Edited by Son Goku, : Would -> What, I think I can't spell anymore!

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Son Goku
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Message 50 of 77 (659494)
04-16-2012 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by ICANT
04-16-2012 8:33 AM


Re: Creationism
ICANT writes:
Did the universe begin to exist 13.7 billion years in the past?
OR
Was the material the universe is formed from exist eternally in the past?
I know the universe existed 13.7 billion years ago and that it was very small and hot at
that time. I don't know what existed before then, so I don't know if it existed eternally
before that, existed for a few billion years already, only started existing a microsecond before that. I simply don't know.

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Son Goku
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Message 55 of 77 (659516)
04-16-2012 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by ICANT
04-16-2012 10:57 AM


Re: Creationism
ICANT writes:
If you don't know the answer, then why ask the question concerning creationism?
I don't understand the reason for your question. This site is based around the evolution/creationism discussion. However I never met Creationists growing up, so I wondered if anybody else had. This, to me, seems completely unrelated to my knowledge of the beginnings of the universe.

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