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Author Topic:   An Atheist By Any Other Name . . .
ringo
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Message 29 of 209 (657608)
03-29-2012 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Perdition
03-29-2012 1:50 PM


Re: ...is still an Atheist
Perdition writes:
To me, a heathen incorporates visions of primitive people sacrificing virgins and dancing in the moonlight holding hearts over their heads.
To me, "heathen" connotes an adherent of the wrong religion rather than an adherent of no religion.
"Atheist" is defined in terms of what one is not instead of what one is. I prefer to think of myself as a realist or a rationalist regardless of whether I'm religious or not.

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ringo
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Message 44 of 209 (657803)
03-30-2012 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Granny Magda
03-30-2012 7:23 AM


Re: Non-Stamp Collector
Granny Magda writes:
But of course, no one ever killed anybody because they collected the wrong type of stamps.
So how do you respond to a stamp collector who claims that non-stamp-collecting is just another hobby?

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ringo
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Message 134 of 209 (658420)
04-04-2012 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by shadow71
04-04-2012 3:44 PM


Re: hedging
shadow71 writes:
I am asking if an atheist cannot accept the fact that after study, dediation, introspection and life experiences I have come to my belief.
I think it's entirely possible to "come to" theistic beliefs. In my case, however, study, dedication, introspection and life experiences have taken me continuously away from theistic beliefs.
It often seems to be a case of starting at a theistic belief and using one's confirmation bias to convince oneself that one got there progressively.

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ringo
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Message 154 of 209 (658508)
04-05-2012 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by shadow71
04-04-2012 5:31 PM


Re: hedging
ahadow71 writes:
ringo writes:
It often seems to be a case of starting at a theistic belief and using one's confirmation bias to convince oneself that one got there progressively.
It seems to be that the opposite is also true in regards to an atheist.
Sure, it's possible for somebody who started out as an atheist to have confirmation bias. But I'm talking about somebody like me, who started out in a theistic family in a highly theistic society.
If you and I used a similar method to arrive at diametrically opposite conclusions, doesn't it seem likely that either the method is flawed or that one of us is using it wrong?

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