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Heathen
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Message 16 of 115 (658080)
04-02-2012 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by MrIBELIEVEinGOD
04-01-2012 11:11 PM


Re: Welcome to EvC.
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Heathen
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Message 17 of 115 (658081)
04-02-2012 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by MrIBELIEVEinGOD
04-01-2012 11:22 PM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
Atheist's dont show uncondentional [sic] love

on what evidence do you base this statement?


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Pressie
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Message 18 of 115 (658086)
04-02-2012 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by MrIBELIEVEinGOD
04-01-2012 11:22 PM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
MrIBELIEVEinGOD writes:

Atheist's dont show uncondentional love...


Please stop telling untruths about other people. It just shows me that you don't really love other people, you just pretend to do so to attain a certain goal.

I know lots of atheists who love other persons without any conditions involved. Those atheists don't have conditions like: love me back or you would burn forever.

I, for example, love my children unconditionally. I would never harm them intentionally in any way, no matter what they do.

MrIBELIEVEinGOD writes:

... and by you calling me crazy...

You showed signs of total irrational behaviour in the clip from your sentence above. You also told untruths about people.

In the light of this, do you blame anyone for thinking that you are crazy?


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frako
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Message 19 of 115 (658088)
04-02-2012 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Heathen
04-02-2012 8:39 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
on what evidence do you base this statement?

Because we are evil baby eaters who want to sacrifice this world and all its people to our true god Satan rofl


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Click if you dare!


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MrIBELIEVEinGOD
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Message 20 of 115 (658095)
04-02-2012 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by crashfrog
04-02-2012 7:31 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
I've always listened to people and not all o what they say is true. I meet older people wo think there wiser than me due to their age, but thats where people get messed up. its not your age that makes you wise. I've meet people who say I cant believe in a God I can't see, but I know that if that person had faith, that he would see God and I have faith and I have seen God. After I have seen God how can I deny his existence?

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Heathen
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Message 21 of 115 (658096)
04-02-2012 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by MrIBELIEVEinGOD
04-02-2012 10:30 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
I have seen God

What does it look like?
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Heathen
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Message 22 of 115 (658097)
04-02-2012 10:33 AM
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04-02-2012 9:20 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
oh!! that evidence.. I see
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MrIBELIEVEinGOD
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Message 23 of 115 (658099)
04-02-2012 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Tangle
04-02-2012 7:41 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
I edited it and put it into paragraphs. let me know if I need to make it more easier for you to read and I will.

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MrIBELIEVEinGOD
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Message 24 of 115 (658100)
04-02-2012 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Heathen
04-02-2012 8:39 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
Hi, I base it off of Factual Evidence. why do you not say hi or greet another person, but instead ask them questions? does this not seem rude to you? I'm just curious.

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MrIBELIEVEinGOD
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Message 25 of 115 (658102)
04-02-2012 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Pressie
04-02-2012 9:13 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
I dont lie to people anymore ever since I found God. I dont tell people there isn't a God and that there isn't a better place after this life. there is no Hope in those words and I think before I speak. I dont pretend at all. do you have evidence to prove that I pretend or are you just rambling on?

are you saying that Atheist's would love murderer's,Rapist's,Terrorist's and other people that do them harm even at the point of them taking their life's?
just as an example: if someone was to kill you would you still love them unconditionally like you do your children?

God is Good all the time, God's kingdom is for the righteous and faithful, God doesn't allow sin in the kingdom God and when people sin they are condemning themselves.

I love unconditionally because my love comes from God not me. God works thru me.

People who throw their judgments on me by calling me crazy are only condemning themselves. so in turn their really not hurting me, but their hurting themselves and no I do not blame them, I blame sin.


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jar
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Message 26 of 115 (658105)
04-02-2012 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by MrIBELIEVEinGOD
04-02-2012 11:04 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
People who throw their judgments on me by calling me crazy are only condemning themselves. so in turn their really not hurting me, but their hurting themselves and no I do not blame them, I blame sin.

Nonsense, they are simply trying to help you.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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MrIBELIEVEinGOD
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Message 27 of 115 (658107)
04-02-2012 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Heathen
04-02-2012 10:31 AM


Re: I Believe In Constructive Conversations
The truth about God is plain to them. God has made it plain.
Ever since the world was created it has been possible to see the qualities of God that are not seen. I'm talking about his eternal power and about the fact that he is God. Those things can be seen in what he has made. So people have no excuse for what they do.

They knew God. But they didn't honor him as God. They didn't thank him. Their thinking became worthless. Their foolish hearts became dark. They claimed to be wise. But they made fools of themselves. They would rather have statues of gods than the glorious God who lives forever. Their statues of gods are made to look like people, birds, animals and reptiles.

So God let them go. He allowed them to do what their sinful hearts wanted to. They chose a lie instead of God's truth.

God's creation is proof of his existence, He shows himself to the hopeless and humble. not to the ignorant for even if he showed himself to you. you would deny him and he knows this.


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Message 28 of 115 (658108)
04-02-2012 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by MrIBELIEVEinGOD
04-02-2012 11:04 AM


Hello MIBiG,

Here's a couple things to talk about:

What do you think about the difference between believing in something and knowing something from what you've seen? For example, I don't say that I "believe" in evolution because I've seen enough evidence to show that its correct; so I say that I accept evolution as an explantion or that I "know" about evolution. For god, I don't have the same amount of information available to have that same confidence level; Since I don't really know, I say that I believe in God, i.e. I take it on faith.

Now, back to you. You say that you've seen god and you know he exists, but you also say that you believe in him and take it on faith. That seems contradictory to me... You don't really need to believe in something on faith if you know it exists because you've seen it. You know what I mean?

Oh, here's another fun one:

You say you've seen and know God, and he lead you from Lucifer... now, how do you know that it was God? How do you know that it wasn't just another, better, trick by Lucifer?

...

What's your take on the Creation vs Evolution debate? Have you come to realize that the animals have and are evolving?


I just checked your facebook page.... we should be talking about video games

Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.


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Theodoric
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Message 29 of 115 (658109)
04-02-2012 11:30 AM


Platform for Proselytizing?
Since when does EVC give a platform for unabashed proselytizing. I realize this is a coffeehouse topic, but giving this platform to this guy is just a waste of bandwidth.

What the hell is this "PM me your prayer requests" bullshit? That is a s bad as spam. I imagine some of our lurkers are saying "what the hell?"


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 30 of 115 (658110)
04-02-2012 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Theodoric
04-02-2012 11:30 AM


Its so easy to not click on things and not read them that I can't see why your bitching about this. Go do something else if you don't like it.
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