Revelation seems to be a popular way of finding God.
But many atheists have the reverse experience, they just wake up one day and noticed that the kings isn't wearing any clothes.
In my case I was born into a Christian family and 100% Christian community. So i was baptised, went to Christian schools, went to mass every Sunday, took all the sacraments, did all the rituals and was even a choir boy. I believed the whole thing. - all of it without reservation. I knew about all the sins and the saints, I believed Christ died for our sins and that the only way to get to heaven was through him. I studied the bible, knew bits of it of by heart and believed every word of it.
So my question is, why would God deconvert me? Why be un-revealed?
I didn't do anything to deliberately make this happen I just noticed after awhile at the age of 14 or 15 that it was a pile of old bollocks. All of it, simply nonsense that didn't stack up.
(For the paranoid anti-evolutionists, this was before I knew anything about evolution).
It seems to me that if this God does exist and he is indeed the God of the Christian faith, then he's done himself out of a soul. Now why would he do that?
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.
Edited by Tangle, : Can't spell 'choir'; twice.
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This is also one of the main reasons I stopped believing, and also why the personal God argument turned sour. Only that it wasn't just a feeling nothing was there stopping me drifting away, rather God didn't really stop my major religious mental problems, like obessive compulsive diseases. Although I've had some feelings... but they didn't always occur at logical moments, and I even had them in the midst of some OCD periods. My view of God was rather unstable as well, also depending on what I had been exposed to lately, and my mood, ranging the very gentle view of God I've been brought up with, or the more orthodox God who is angry with humanity and at me.. there was no good constant to it.
So, as a result, I'm rather convinced He doesn't exist, and if He does... then why was I left alone with my mental delusions so many times? It was so bad I later in the deconversion process, I was actively trying to work towards it as much as the compulsive remainds of my faith allowed.
So my question is, why would God deconvert me? Why be un-revealed? I didn't do anything to deliberately make this happen I just noticed after awhile at the age of 14 or 15 that it was a pile of old bollocks. All of it, simply nonsense that didn't stack up.
I don't think you can blame God for giving you free will. It was your decision. If you wish to share, I would like to know if there was a "trigger" that led you to non-belief?
Well, in your OP you said: "It seems to me that if this God does exist and he is indeed the God of the Christian faith, then he's done himself out of a soul. Now why would he do that?"
The Christian God that I worship didn't lose a soul, will still judge you based on what you did do, did not do and what you could have done after you die, doesn't really care whether or not you believe in her, and it will likely offer you a better seat at the table than many "Christians".
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
The Christian God that I worship didn't lose a soul, will still judge you based on what you did do, did not do and what you could have done after you die, doesn't really care whether or not you believe in her, and it will likely offer you a better seat at the table than many "Christians".
Does the Christian God that you worship have a rehab plan for those who fail the first sheep/goats midterm exam?
First off, I believe that God exists...regardless of how people see or do not see Him. My problem is that I tend to assign God favorable attributes. Hence GOD becomes my God.
Question for jar: Why is it comforting to believe that God is so unknowable?
AbE: Or should I rather say that GOD is unknowable??
I don't think you can blame God for giving you free will. It was your decision. If you wish to share, I would like to know if there was a "trigger" that led you to non-belief?
It had nothing to do with free will, I didn't choose to notice that the whole Christian thing is a made up children's story. It was a reverse revelation.
I didn't go looking for alternatives I was just standing there in church one day when I noticed what a pile of horse manure it all was.
Why would God do that?
I know the usual waffle is about testing and long dark nights of the soul, but that really doesn't do it for me; it wasn't about doubt it was about certainty.
How can you believe in something that you know is obvious nonsense?
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
I didn't go looking for alternatives I was just standing there in church one day when I noticed what a pile of horse manure it all was.
Why would God do that?
Assuming for the sake of this argument that IF God exists, God exists regardless of human arguments for or against.
One possibility: God was allowing you to freely use your discernment and intellect and to question what you had been taught. Your conclusion was quick and efficient. One question that remains is whether we should bother trying to know and commune with GOD.(In light of our logical conclusions regarding organized religion)
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