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Author Topic:   radical liberals (aka liberal commies) vs ultra conservatives (aka nutjobs)
Probare
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Message 64 of 300 (659026)
04-12-2012 1:16 AM


I think you take too extreme cases for both sides. I normally identify as a liberal, but there's only so far one can take that. I don't know any liberal who's that reserved in judgement, and most of my family are liberal. As a liberal, I say that I do not mind homosexuality, pornography, religions other than Christianity... I also own guns though, I'm not a "blow-heads-off-then-ask-questions" type, I just own guns. I'd use guns for defense, but I mainly use them for sporting. I do not myself nor see many other people who accept sex with 5 or 9 year-olds. I'm not personally against high school kids having at, but at that point they've got the education and mental presence to think.
You were closer with conservatives, but still off. I've got much less of an argument here because I tend to think that conservatives are too touchy about a lot of things which frankly aren't their business.

Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams
By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out. - Richard Dawkins

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Probare
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Message 102 of 300 (659161)
04-13-2012 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by New Cat's Eye
04-12-2012 10:08 AM


That's religious people. They've hijacked conservatism.
Fair enough. I've never seen well exemplified conservatism without a strong religious backing though, so I'd only find it fair to draw those conclusions.

Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams
By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out. - Richard Dawkins

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Probare
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Message 126 of 300 (659255)
04-13-2012 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Taz
04-12-2012 10:21 AM


Taz writes:
I used to think this.
But recently, I started looking in the past and I realized that religion had always been hand in hand with conservatism.
Can you give us an example of when conservatism wasn't based on religious ideals?
Exactly, I was under the impression that conservatism was by the religious for the religious.

Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams
By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out. - Richard Dawkins

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Probare
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Message 127 of 300 (659257)
04-13-2012 8:16 PM
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04-13-2012 9:50 AM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Sure, religious people are gonna back conservatism. But being touchy about things that aren't your business stems from religious ideals, not conservative ones.
Isn't the point of conservatism to preserve religious ideas and morals in politics?

Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams
By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out. - Richard Dawkins

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