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Author Topic:   Problems with being an Atheist (or Evolutionist)
Huntard
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Message 128 of 276 (569248)
07-21-2010 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by Big_Al35
07-21-2010 7:19 AM


Re: Clarity
Although you're trying to be clever again, number three is actually wrong.
Until you can prove that your name is ... or any other claim you make, why should we take your word for it?
Until you can prove that you shouldn't send me a million dollars every minute, are you going to send me a million dollars every minute?

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2414 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 130 of 276 (569257)
07-21-2010 8:31 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by Big_Al35
07-21-2010 8:25 AM


Re: Clarity
Big_Al35 writes:
This is where legitimate reasons come into play. Clearly your brain seems to have difficulty comprehending legitimate reasons. A condition called autism springs to mind.
Anway, until you can prove you shouldn't send me two million dollars every minute, I guess the balance is a cheque in my favour.
Really? You really missed the entire point of my post? Look, there's no easy way to say this but here goes.
From what I've seen fom you so far you are either:
a) The dumbest person I've ever talked to
or
b) Pretending to be a complete idiot in order to get a rise out of people, which is perhaps even sadder.
So which is it?

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2414 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 136 of 276 (569269)
07-21-2010 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by Big_Al35
07-21-2010 8:41 AM


Re: Clarity
To show you that the burden of proof is not upon the one disbelieving the claim.
Here, let me break it down for you, if you don;t get it after that (or pretend to), I would advise you to either learn something before you comment again, even if it is just reading comprehension or a quick "how to debate" course, or just give up here, because ther's obviously no point in trying to teach you something.
Ok, here we go:
You stated in Message 127:
Big_Al35 writes:
If you can't prove that my name isn't .... then shouldn't you assume that I am telling the truth until such time as you have evidence that I am lying.
This measn that unless someone can without a doubt show your name isn't ..., he should take your word for it. This is not how you operate in real life, now is it? You don't go around believing people until you can prove them wrong.
To this I replied with the following in Message 128
Huntard writes:
Although you're trying to be clever again, number three is actually wrong.
Here I tell you that you're trying to be funny again. Perhaps I misjudged, and you really don't understand the slightest thing about how the world works. I also tell you that your statement in the previous message is wrong.
Huntard writes:
Until you can prove that your name is ... or any other claim you make, why should we take your word for it?
I ask you a question. A question you haven't answered. Would you care to do so?
Huntard writes:
Until you can prove that you shouldn't send me a million dollars every minute, are you going to send me a million dollars every minute?
I use an argument ad absurdum to show you why having to disprove something before not beliving it to be true is a stupid thing to do. If you really thought you should disprove things before you can stop believing them, you should be sending me 1 million dollars every minute. Since I do not hold the position that I should disporve something before I don't belive it, your reply in Message 129:
Big_Al35 writes:
Anway, until you can prove you shouldn't send me two million dollars every minute, I guess the balance is a cheque in my favour.
Shows that you missed the entire point of my message. Because I am not the one advocating that kind of behaviour, and in fact think it's completely stupid to act that way. You on the other hand say this is perfectly normal, so, I await your 1 million dollar deposits, thank you very much.

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Huntard
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Message 148 of 276 (569547)
07-22-2010 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Big_Al35
07-22-2010 6:38 AM


Re: Clarity
Your most artful dodge yet. So, again it seems that something you made up is not supported by any evidence.
Tell us when you'll stop making stuff up please, so we can start taking you seriously.

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2414 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 158 of 276 (576041)
08-22-2010 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by 0ut0f0rder
08-22-2010 2:09 AM


0ut0f0rder writes:
I don't believe in Atheists
I don't believe you don't believe in atheists.
Edited by Huntard, : did quote wrong

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2414 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 230 of 276 (582253)
09-20-2010 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by riVeRraT
09-20-2010 1:32 PM


Re: Atheism IS a belief
riVeRraT writes:
Tell me one thing that Jesus suggested that is the "wrong thing".
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."
Jesus Christ, Matthew 10:34-36
Sounds a bit wrong to me, you shouldn't fight with your family.
Even when I was not a believer, I have a problem with the concept of science dictation all of what is right or wrong.
Science doesn't dictate what is right or wrong. Science is a way of finding out how the world works.
Especially since science can change when better data becomes available.
Are you saying it shouldn't change to incorporate better data?
So my concept of right and wrong can change with it?
Concepts of right and wrong change all the time. Once, slavery was thought to be right, once Jews were reviled by the church. It's a bit different now, isn't it?
One day wine is no good for you, the next day a few glasses is good for you. Come on dude, that sometimes sounds more crazy that believing in a god.
Not really, no, since those "findings" are based on actual data, and the latter is not. By the way, I think you'll be hard pressed to find any scientific study that claims "wine is good for you" or "wine is bad for you" Don't confuse what the media report with what scientists think.
In a way science can be like the wind, and we should just take it for what it is worth, and not make science into our god.
I don't know anybody that is doing that.

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