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Author Topic:   Gay\transgender -- not by genetics, not by upbringing, not by choice
Panda
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Message 6 of 276 (660366)
04-24-2012 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
12-12-2011 11:22 AM


RAZD writes:
We can rule out genetics.
Can we?
quote:
Monozygotic twins are genetically nearly identical...Wiki
Therefore, identical twins are not completely genetically identical.
Could they be so different as to cause one twin to by trans-gender? I don't know.
But they are not genetically identical, so why should we exclude genetics?
RAZD writes:
We can rule out upbringing.
To expect 2 children to have the same up-bringing (because they are twins) is overly simplistic.
Twins are not actually physically joined.
An individual twin experiences a different life to his brother.
These different experiences lead to different behaviour.
Could certain events in a life lead to gender confusion? I don't know.
But I see no reason to exclude the possibility that they could.

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Panda
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Message 18 of 276 (660455)
04-26-2012 4:57 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Tangle
04-26-2012 4:12 AM


Who would?
There would also be very little homophobic bullying in schools if gay people could choose to be straight.
You would have to be some kind of masochist to actually choose to put yourself through that kind of abuse.

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Panda
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Message 74 of 276 (660964)
05-01-2012 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by onifre
04-30-2012 11:26 PM


Re: Ok, I'll be that guy
onifre writes:
If this is the rabbit hole you need to go to in this debate, then we can end this here. It has been zero fun lately to debate here, mostly because of disingenuous shit like this. Plus it's turned into Facebook, how utterly annoying.
Bye.

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Panda
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Message 145 of 276 (661648)
05-08-2012 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by crashfrog
05-08-2012 7:48 AM


Re: Just to clarify
CF writes:
Isn't someone who does criminal acts, by definition, a criminal?
Yes - because the definition of a criminal is "a person who has committed a criminal act".
But the definition of a male/female is not "a person that does masculine/feminine things".

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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