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Message 3 of 415 (661371)
05-04-2012 8:42 PM


Avoidance is Creationism's only hope
Creationism simply reflects what is happening with all of Conservative Fundamentalist Christianity; they have learned that they cannot survive in an arena based on truth, evidence or reality and so they avoid those things where they know they must and will lose.
They avoid the education environment and so set up their school systems where reality never enters.
They avoid textbooks and so create their own biased fables and call them textbooks.
They avoid open discussion and ban any that threaten their little world.
They create their own avoidance TV and radio networks, avoidance browsers designed not to find information but avoid information.
Creationism isn't dead, but it has admitted that it cannot compete in the world of reality, honesty and evidence.
Instead it will continue to try to avoid exposing kids to reality, truth or honesty in the hope that when they grow up they can impose their nonsense on all through the courts.

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Message 27 of 415 (661415)
05-05-2012 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Granny Magda
05-05-2012 8:06 AM


What is a creationist:?
Only in the broadest sense in that GDR like myself believe that GOD really is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen.

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Message 30 of 415 (661440)
05-05-2012 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by ringo
05-05-2012 12:56 PM


Re: CreationJon
ringomartinez would certainly be setting a high bar, perhaps one that is unachievable.

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Message 65 of 415 (661906)
05-10-2012 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Buzsaw
05-10-2012 8:43 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
Buz writes:
Most of these same people think they know so much about the Bible, when, in fact they know little or nothing about how the prophecies, etc corroborate one another regarding evidence and so forth. When, in threads that they get it wrong, I usually correct them with chapters and verses etc. I show them how-in they are mistaken.
Then here is your chance Buz, please provide links to where you have posted the Chapter and Verse. In fact Buz, there is a whole thread devoted to just that topic. Maybe you can join us there and for ONCE actually provide evidence. Come on over to Are any of these prophecies fulfilled by Jesus? and let's see if you can support your assertions.

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Message 67 of 415 (661911)
05-10-2012 9:19 PM
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05-10-2012 9:13 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
Then he can provide a link to any place where he has EVER provide chapter and verse support for ANY assertion.

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Message 78 of 415 (662046)
05-11-2012 6:49 PM
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05-11-2012 6:47 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
There is no such thing as 'Creation Science' and there could never be such a thing; it is an oxymoron.

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Message 83 of 415 (662057)
05-11-2012 7:45 PM
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05-11-2012 7:43 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
You keep making that claim Buz but never provide the Chapter and Verse so we can see if there is such a prophecy and if it is in any way fulfilled.

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Message 133 of 415 (662268)
05-14-2012 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Buzsaw
05-14-2012 7:41 AM


Re: YEC: Say What?
Buz writes:
The problem is that you, et al, reject any science supportive to to ID Biblical creationism and the existence of a higher intelligence existing in the Universe than what is common to humans,
In that case perhaps you can provide a link to a post where you have EVER presented ANY science supportive of ID Biblical creationism and the existence of a higher intelligence existing in the Universe than what is common to humans.
Buz writes:
You reject the supernatural realm, including a majestic supreme creator/manager god, angels, both good and evil and all other hosts inhabiting the cosmos, even though scientific evidence has been aired supportive to higher powers. One example being fulfilled predictions of events subsequent to those predictions. Another example, archeological discoveries; another, cultural and historical evidence, such as the phenomena of all cultures of human history being religious.
Great, then can you please provide a link to ANY post where you have EVER provided ANY evidence?

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Message 193 of 415 (667472)
07-07-2012 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by marc9000
07-07-2012 9:12 PM


There is no such thing as "Atheist Science".
There is no such thing as "Atheist Science".
There is no such thing as "Atheist Faith".

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Message 240 of 415 (668231)
07-18-2012 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Buzsaw
07-18-2012 5:18 PM


Re: Your God's Book Purposefully Deceives?
Do you have any evidence to present Buz?
And boards evolve. If all the Creationists stop coming it is no loss, just Natural Selection.

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Message 249 of 415 (668268)
07-19-2012 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 245 by Buzsaw
07-18-2012 11:00 PM


Re: Your God's Book Purposefully Deceives?
If that is true then please provide a link to a post where you cited pages of observable evidence pertaing to history, fulfilled biblical prophecy, archeological discoveries etc.

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Message 297 of 415 (669140)
07-27-2012 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 294 by Buzsaw
07-27-2012 7:59 AM


Re: Eye Witness Evidence
No secularistic minded archeologist has to falsified the photographically evidenced eye witnesses at Aqaba's Nuweiba Beach. The photographic evidence was photographed by a marine scientist with a ship equiped with all needed for marine archeological research.
Sorry but so far you have NEVER presented any evidence, photographic or otherwise, that supports or even indicates that the biblical Exodus story in anyway is connected to any imagined beach at Nuweiba.
Unless you can provide a link to where you presented such evidence it appears that you are simply posting yet another unsupported assertion.

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Message 358 of 415 (669590)
07-31-2012 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 349 by Minnemooseus
07-31-2012 3:47 AM


Re: Still, there is the problem of dogpiles and jerk evolutionists
The evolution side recognizes that the creation "science" side is armed with an empty gun. Still, the evo side demand is that they fire something other than blanks.
Not quite.
What happens is that we point out that if Creationists actually expect to achieve anything it might be smarter to load the gun with something other than blanks.
No one demands that they fire more than blanks but Creationists might wish that the folk that support the FACT that evolution happened and that the Theory of Evolution is the only model that explains what is seen were required to use blanks as well.

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Message 401 of 415 (669773)
08-02-2012 3:00 PM


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Forums evolve and perhaps that is what is happening here just as it happens in real life.
The fact is that Evolution happened and the only model that explains the variety of life today is the Theory of Evolution.
That some people still believe in Creationism is also fact, but as with many other things, the only issue there is to see that such people do not get into positions of power, get to teach their nonsense in public schools or get elected.
The evidence is pretty much overwhelming that once a someone gets exposed to reality they soon find Creationism just cannot stand up to examination. Creationism cannot continue when children get exposed to reality.
Maybe it's time to simply ignore Creationism and Creationists and move on. Let them build their avoidance society and live their lives avoiding the universe.

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