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What about me? I accept evolution, yet I believe in god, and I know that Genesis is wrong. Am I an evolutionist?

Well when you say things like this:

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It depends, as always, on the definition of evolution that the atheist wants to use at any given time.

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Does it mean, common descent-Genesis is wrong-there is no God? — as it almost always does?

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It sounds like you're equating evolutionism with atheism.And there's plenty of thiests who accept evolution so you can't really say that evolutionism almost always means that there is not God.

I was asking marc because he seemed to equate evolutionism with atheism. Well I don't claim to "believe in the god of the Bible"... there is no one "god of the Bible". And the Bible is just a book, it doesn't constrain god. God is greater than the Bible. We're not intended to "live by the Bible". Christ instructed us to love god and love each other. That's all we're intended to do.And you don't even live by the Bible. There's plenty of old testament stuff in there that you just ignore.

Well, have you ever seen a liberal creationist?I think you should say it the other way: there isn't a connection between being a conservative and being a creationist. I think its a good idea to keep a good grip on the reins and keep an eye on where you're going. I don't mind progressing socially, but I don't like the rashness that I tend to see in the left. I think its good to have a conservative side to keep things in check. The progress is unavoidable, but the speed can be tampered. They always seem to forget that them good ol' days are what lead to these days here.

Do you really think we're conspiring? Really!?I was just being honest, buz, I'm not working with any of the other members to get any kind of advantage or anything.

Oh, okay. Well, when you say it like this:

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You evolutionists claim the best from both POVs, so as to allow yourselves the advtage over the bonafide Bible believing creationsts.

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It looks like you're adding intentions into it. They do X so as to Y would mean that the reason for X is Y. But that's not true at all. I don't accept evolution so that I have an advantage over creationists.But I think I might get what you're trying to say:That because the evolutionists cover both sides of the spectrum, or practically the whole continuum, then we do have an advantage over the creationists and that leads to less and less creationists coming around.But that should be telling you something. Not, as you notice, that we're conspiring against the creationists, but that we're all looking at the same thing. It doesn't matter your background, facts speak for themselves. The real reason that creationists are on shortage, is because they're on shortage of facts.In Message 145 you wrote: I remember when we were discussing that chariot wheel. You were saying that the Bible says the wheel should be somewhere, and then a wheel was found near there so therefore that's evidence that the Bible was right. I tried to explain to you the logic of supporting evidence and eliminating coincidence and how what you thought was evidence really wasn't working like you thought it should.It had nothing to do with me being unwilling to accept a miracle from the Bible. It was straight forwardly about how the nature of evidence works. Unfortuantely, we didn't get anywhere and you stopped responding.

As an off topic aside:Knowing that you intended on creating a marketable product in creating this dicsussion board, do you feel like you're falling behind into the old ways in not having a moble app n'shit like that? That maybe you should've gone to market already?

You used to post site statistics back in the day, remember? I suppose you don't really have the time, but I always found that info to be interesting if you need a reason to do it again.