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Buzsaw
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Message 5 of 415 (661375)
05-04-2012 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Blue Jay
05-04-2012 8:13 PM


Re: Where Are The Creationists
Bluejay writes:
I think we won!
You have won, thanks to Percy/Admin.
He's banned one of your most effective creationists from all science forums which include some Biblical ones. When nearly all of you, his evolutionst members voted that Buzsaw be reinstated into Science forums, Percy's one bully pulpit vote trumped all of yours.
He dogged me, demanding what to post next etc in the last Exodus thread and now member Percy is demanding that I cease and desist posting on topic messages relating to how commodity goods made investors of it wealthy while $$ assets infate, becoming ever more worthless making these people less wealthy. He cited Dr Adequate's response as well, demanding no more responses relating to my message. He's made similar demands, even at FreeForAll. Go figure why you've won.
If Percy/Admin would leave the moderating up to Minnemooseus and the rest of his team of moderators, I assure you that you would not be winning and some other creationists might find this site a place where they would desire to stay and engage in debates.
Creationists come and soon they're gone after Percy mothers/dogges them as to what they must and must not post. . They need some fair and balance from Percy/Admin before you can expect others to feel welcome.
At 76, my business, church, garden and other activities limit my online time, especially during the summer, so if you all want more creationists you need to persuade Percy to stop running them off. He's nice to them at first, but sooner or later he drives them off.
I don't see much from astute physicists like Son Goku and Cavediver, etc anymore. They and other astute scientists share the same frustration as Dr Adequate. Activity livens up and threads get hot when bonafide creationst vs evolutionist debates happen. Otherwise, about all this site amounts to is a round table discussion among evolutionits and Big Bangers.
IMO, AdminPD needs to lighten up a bit on moderating as well. Imo, she needs to allow some more leeway in the treads relative to adherance to topic. IMO, moderating makes or breaks debate boards. Imo, the less, the better. It's the trolls and dumb-headed that they need to focus on. .

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 7 of 415 (661377)
05-04-2012 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Shield
05-04-2012 9:05 PM


Re: Buzsaw Nutty? Say What?
rbp writes:
And buzsaw is not just any creationist, he is a right wing nutty conspiracy creationist, and those are a minority of creationists.
You're right that I'm not the typical creationist. That's why I'm effective in the dabates. My stuff is not easily refuted. The threads become active when I'm active due to the fact that there need to be more unique creationists not programmed into the same ole in the colleges etc.
You're wrong about the right wing nutty conspiracy creationist.
Where were you when you thought my stuff was nutty? Why were't you in there, effectively refuting it?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 13 of 415 (661383)
05-04-2012 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by DrJones*
05-04-2012 9:57 PM


Re: Buzsaw Nutty? Say What?
DrJones writes:
you being too ignorant to know when you've been refuted not easily refuted
Why then do threads which I actively engage in tend to be long and hot?
Why weren't you or rdp in there refuting what you two allege to be nutty and easily refuted?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 14 of 415 (661384)
05-04-2012 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Shield
05-04-2012 10:13 PM


Re: Proper
rbp writes:
Evolution versus creationism and intelligent design. With proper arguments from all sides.
But thats just a pipe dream i guess.
What is proper relates to one's ideology. What is considered proper by one may not be proper in another's view.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 18 of 415 (661388)
05-04-2012 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Shield
05-04-2012 9:59 PM


Re: Buzsaw Nutty? Say What?
rbp writes:
You're wrong about the right wing nutty conspiracy creationist.
I COULD be.
If i remember correctly, you DO believe in a 'New World Order'? A global conspiracy etc. etc.
If im wrong, please tell me.
Rpb, your own ignorance is showing. Nearly all late Presidents and especially Obama have been calling for a New World Order, just as was prophesied by the Old Testament and the New Testiment of the Bible for the these latter days. Nearly all world leaders are calling for one. It is indeed a conspiracy to absolve national sovereignty and ever increase the global order, imposing it on all nations by force if necessary until all citizens become subservient to a few powerful and brutal elete despots.
It's sheeple like you who's ignorance allows it to happen. .
[rbp]
Where were you when you thought my stuff was nutty? Why were't you in there, effectively refuting it?
You are right. I do not participate enough. I lurk alot but i do not post alot.
I had enough of the creationism debate a few years ago and i have no reason to participate in creationism debate on this board since it is almost non existing.[/qs]
Then that makes you a troll, posting nothing edifying. You're here criticizing us who do.
rdp writes:
Though i did not respond to your arguments in earlier threads, your argument are still bad.
You need to poop or get off the pot. You need to show evidence that they are bad. Here at EvC, one does not just declare stuff to be bad. You must do the evidence thing as the rest of us are required to do.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 34 of 415 (661639)
05-08-2012 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Artemis Entreri
05-08-2012 8:07 PM


Re: A++
Arterius writes:
the truest post of the month.
you should be quiet about the truth around here though, they love the masquerade that there is actual some "debate" here. and that it is "scientific" and "intellectually honest".
you hit the nail on the head Buzsaw, the Admin here, censors the opposition.
It makes this site completely lame except for entertainment purposes.
the truest post of the month.
you should be quiet about the truth around here though, they love the masquerade that there is actual some "debate" here. and that it is "scientific" and "intellectually honest".
you hit the nail on the head Buzsaw, the Admin here, censors the opposition.
It makes this site completely lame except for entertainment purposes.
Thanks, Arterius. Yes, the answer to Dr Adequate's question is a no brainer, but they simply wave that reason off as it amounts to nothing. How can one participate if one is banned from doing so? Go figure, D.A. et al. Why would any newbies care to log in where they see how creationists are treated here.
I don''t know why I bother any more. For the most part, I don't. Of course that pleases Percy and some of his cumbodies who can't take the heat of debate which gores their ox.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 39 of 415 (661664)
05-09-2012 7:09 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Nuggin
05-09-2012 2:15 AM


Re: CAPS
Nuggin writes:
This is what you sound like when you type in caps.
Well, at least our good Chinaman got your attention.
IMO, it's the post of the month on behalf of EvC creationists.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 42 of 415 (661675)
05-09-2012 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Dr Adequate
05-09-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
DA writes:
And then you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
That is, who EvC evolutionist sheeples do not take seriously.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 44 of 415 (661683)
05-09-2012 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Dr Adequate
05-09-2012 8:01 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
DA writes:
If you take him seriously, then please state in your own words what point he wishes to make about "the CRISPRSs system".
Not sure, but likely relating to how the Crysper System applies the DNA factor, relative to macro-evolution, more-so than for evolution of species.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 47 of 415 (661689)
05-09-2012 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Buzsaw
05-09-2012 9:34 AM


Re: Buzsaw Correction
Buzsaw writes:
Not sure, but likely relating to how the Crysper System applies the DNA factor, relative to macro-evolution, more-so than for evolution of species.[
Make that micro-evolution rather than macro-evolution. Senior moment, ooorly thought out, post.
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 50 of 415 (661718)
05-09-2012 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Nuggin
05-09-2012 10:58 AM


Re: Buzsaw Correction
Nuggin writes:
A couple simple questions:
1) Do you believe that two organisms which have sufficiently different DNA are unable to mate successfully as a result of the differences, or do you believe that regardless of how different the DNA any two organisms can always mate successfully?
2) If you have a bucket that contains 5 beans, and you add a bean does the bucket still contain only 5 beans or are there now 6 beans? If you continue to add beans, does the number keep changing with each successive bean? Or, do you believe that regardless of how many beans you add, the number of beans in the bucket will always remain exactly the same?
If you add a bean you have six, but if you alter the qroperties of one of the five beans by sprouting one, you still have five; one having different properties than the other four. Either may be planted for propagation of more beans.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 55 of 415 (661787)
05-10-2012 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Tangle
05-10-2012 2:41 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
Tangle writes:
Buzsaw writes:
Not sure, but likely relating to how the Crysper System applies the DNA factor, relative to macro-evolution, more-so than for evolution of species
There's no shame in not understanding what this is all about because in order to understand it you have to have formally studied the subject, normally for many years - like any complex modern science, you would normally be a research scientist in the particular subject before you could even think of having an opinion on it.
But there's a huge amount of shame in PRETENDING that you understand it and even more in thinking that you're fooling anyone here by claiming that you do.
Tangle, Factoring my correction in Message 47 tell me and the www how far off my understanding of the system is. Were it not in the science field, I could participate in a topic on it, but alas, go figure where all the creationists have went.
You fail to acknowledge in this personal attack message that I did correct myself. As has been pointed out already in this thread, the demeaning know-it-all attitude evolutionists have towards creationists has been demonstrated in this thread. It's typical of examples why creationists do not come or stay here at EvC.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 64 of 415 (661903)
05-10-2012 8:43 PM


Where Have Creationists Gone?
The responses I've gotten from the last posters pertaining to macro, micro, etc are a classic example of where the creationists have gone and why.
All that these antagonists have posted is yakety yak about Buz's ignorance. Not one of these have explained an edifying thing as to why macro and micro evolution are unrelated to the Crysper System and where-in I have it wrong, pertaining to DNA, etc.
These same personal attackers demand evidence and reasons why I alledge that they are mistaken on a given Biblical issue. .
Most of these same people think they know so much about the Bible, when, in fact they know little or nothing about how the prophecies, etc corroborate one another regarding evidence and so forth. When, in threads that they get it wrong, I usually correct them with chapters and verses etc. I show them how-in they are mistaken.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 73 of 415 (662020)
05-11-2012 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Rahvin
05-11-2012 3:21 PM


Re: Creationist Shortage Solution.
Rahvin writes:
What do you think, Buz? Is that a more helpful analysis of the problem? And if so, do you have any ideas for how to solve it?
The solution is very simple. As NoNukes implied and as nearly 100% of evolutionists once voted, the solution is to allow Buzsaw to be Buzsaw in the common existing science forums as it was back in the good old days when the creo-evo debates were smokin.
There was no shortage then and good people like Silas, Cavediver, et al had something controversial enough for robust debate. Admin/Percy should go on a long vacation and let the more fair and balanced moderators do the moderating.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 77 of 415 (662045)
05-11-2012 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by subbie
05-11-2012 4:20 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
subbie writes:
It really is quite astonishing, isn't it? One cannot escape the feeling that not only does Buz not understand science talk, he doesn't even really have much of a grasp on plain English.
One cannot excape the feeling that resident evolutionists do not understand, or allow for creation science talk. Your bully pulpit site owner simply bans it from debate so as for it to stand or fall on it's own merits.
As for plain English, at times some you vindictive counterparts don't have it quite right either. When it comes to the meaning of the scientific term, evidence, you simply deny it all, including it's proper meaning.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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