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Message 75 of 415 (662022)
05-11-2012 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Buzsaw
05-10-2012 8:43 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
Where Have Creationists Gone?
Some got educated and realised creationism is a scam based on fairytale, and void of facts.
The others realised the internet is the place religions come to die and curled up under their bed screaming make the knowledge go away Jesus, make me thick again Jesus help me Jesus.
Most of these same people think they know so much about the Bible, when, in fact they know little or nothing about how the prophecies, etc corroborate one another regarding evidence and so forth. When, in threads that they get it wrong, I usually correct them with chapters and verses etc. I show them how-in they are mistaken.
Well you know little or nothing how the prophets of Dephi corroborate the existence of Apollo a Greek god
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Message 80 of 415 (662051)
05-11-2012 7:11 PM
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05-11-2012 6:55 PM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
LoL. If you think the alleged prophets of Dephi or anything supporting the existence of a Greek god is supported by evidence, you haven't a clue as to the mountains of evidence pertaining to the Biblical record and how scanty little there is to the Greek gods in comparison.
No YOU havent got a clue, the mountain of evidence pertaining to the oracle of Delphi and their prophecies COMING TRUE out ways your whole bible, And that evidence does not only come from the Greeks other civilizations also wrote about the oracle of Delphi and their prophecies. So the god Apollo MUST BE REAL so worship him and maby you will see the Elisian fields or be dammed to Tartarus
hereuis a small list List of oracular statements from Delphi - Wikipedia

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Message 98 of 415 (662109)
05-12-2012 12:11 PM
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05-12-2012 7:49 AM


Re: Where Have Creationists Gone?
e to our end times
Well probably because the bible is wrong and there are no end times in sight yet.
"If you cross the river, a great empire will be destroyed.
Was a grate empire destroyed or not when he crossed the river or not??
She allegedly also proclaimed Socrates to be the wisest man in Greece,
so your saying that the man who basicly is the father of philosophy was not the wisest man at that time in Greece?
And the last bit did the oracles prophecy of defending themselves with wooden walls not save Athens?

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Message 100 of 415 (662111)
05-12-2012 12:27 PM


I think we should show the creationist a bit more leniency in the science formus after all we have facts to back us up they dont
So fi for example a creationist posts a claim that the earth is 6000 years old and has no evidence but the bible to back it up let him post that then let him read detailed information of numerous dating techniques that prove him wrong and none that prove him right.
Or if they copy and paste some creationists work from the 18hundreds let them do it, then let them watch it being torn apart piece by piece by facts and evidence.

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Message 105 of 415 (662135)
05-12-2012 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Buzsaw
05-12-2012 5:14 PM


Re: YEC: Say What?
This is another example of why creationists are ill treated here. We all get painted with the same broad brush. A significant percentage of us are not YEC 6000-ers. Many YECs like Kent Hoven even call for a young Universe. That's nonsense, though he has some valid evidence and arguments for many aspects of ID and creationism. I don't through out the baby with the bathwater as some critics of Hovind do. ,
It was just an example sorry i offended you, but common the 6000 old earth is not the silliest thing creationists claim.
Have you ever bothered to read my long time on-going message signature? The Buzsaw unique creationist paradigm factors an infinite Universe. Jehovah, god who exists in the cosmos/heavens, is eternal; thus an eternal Universe and thus an infinite stable amount of energy as per LoT1. No energy is created or destroyed infinitely. As per science, it only changes forms.
My paradigm essentially trumps the non-scientific BB Theory which implies a finite Universe. (See my message signature). .
Yes and the observable fact that everything you push moves faster so Einstein was clearly wrong about the whole speed of light limit because its so simple when an object is travelling at the speed of light you just push it and vuala it travels faster then the speed of light, by by relativity.
Big Bang Theory for Kids

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Message 117 of 415 (662187)
05-13-2012 8:48 AM
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05-13-2012 8:19 AM


Re: The Delusional Ones
At least we have enough smarts to know that utter chaos just doesn't emerge naturally into unimaginable order and complexity in every aspect of nature from the submicroscopic world to the yet unknown extent of forces and bodies in the cosmos.
There is nothing visibly observable in our environs that, through random and natural means progresses from chaos into order.
I have 100 dice numbered 1-6 and 1 dice numbered 1-100, i throw the 100 sided dice to select one dice marked 1-6 then throw the selected 1-6 dice. All totally random right.
Now comes selection if the dice i select trough the throw of the 100 sided dice is showing the number 6 i leave it alone, if its not 6 i throw the dice. and repeat the process.
So the above process cant never produce 100 dice all showing 6?
This is how evolution works random mutation, random location of that mutation, but not random selection.
The Buzsaw paradigm calls for an infinite energy, infinite forces and infinite gravity, etc, not assuming uniformity, whereas the BB/evolutionist theories implies that our wonderfully complex and orderly physically observable Universe expanded from a hot submicroscopic zero time and space singularity event, having no space into which to have existed, no time in which it could have happend and no outside of which to expand into.
You are talking about extremes and extremes usually do not conform to our notions of how things work.
Examples
-extremely cold when an atom gets cooled to near absolute zero it no longer acts as an atom but as a wave.
-extreme speed everything you push goes faster but when you reach the speed of light that do sent happen because nothing can go faster then light.
- extremely small things like atoms behave according to quantum mechanics and not according to Newtonian physics.
-extremely massive things like black holes our understanding of physics brakes down when we talk about them.
When we talk about the big bang we are talking about the hottest most massive thing in the universes history stuck in the smallest space in the universes history. You think it behaved do to your knowledge of how things work.
when you talk about infinite energy space blablabla you are again talking about an extreme do you think they really behaves according to your understanding of how things work?

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Message 131 of 415 (662266)
05-14-2012 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Buzsaw
05-14-2012 7:41 AM


Re: YEC: Say What?
Not at all. The problem is that you, et al, reject any science supportive to to ID Biblical creationism and the existence of a higher intelligence existing in the Universe than what is common to humans,
Ok show me a scientific method that objectivity shows a young earth, or spontaneous creation, or show meascientific device that goes bleep when thers magic man running about.
You reject the supernatural realm, including a majestic supreme creator/manager god, angels, both good and evil and all other hosts inhabiting the cosmos, even though scientific evidence has been aired supportive to higher powers.
well oyu reject Apollo, Zeus, and the flying spagethie monster the same evidence supports them.Show me an angel or the residue of an angel, or the energy signature of an angel, anything that points to an angel.
Mysterious objects, such as particles, etc are good to go with you, but narry a thing implicating other forms of life.
YES BECAUSE THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING TO STUFF LIKE THAT!!!
Dark matter well we have indirect evidence for it. So what do we do we build research stations trying to find concrete evidence for it.
What do you do you go and preach the word when by some cosmic fluke something "miraculous" happens that can be otherwise explained, and you deny other explanations. It has to be proof of the judeo Christian god because other gods are just made up, and its pointless to do a scientific inquiry on the event because science cant detect god right?
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