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NoNukes
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Message 376 of 415 (669666)
08-01-2012 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 375 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 11:23 AM


Re: nobody gets banned for being off topic, wink.
Like calling a post off topic and hiding it, in a coffee house forum that is not supposed to be moderated you mean?
No, I mean like making abusive posts railing on the moderator, getting suspended, then returning and deliberately acting like a jerk until you are suspended again.
I think you raise interesting points and make unique arguments which make for great discussion, but you also like to pee in your own cornflakes. I am uncertained whether I would have banned you long ago, but I completely understand why you don't have the same posting privileges everyone else has.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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ringo
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Message 377 of 415 (669667)
08-01-2012 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 366 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 12:35 AM


Re: nobody gets banned for being off topic, wink.
Bolder-dash writes:
Its easy to call someone off topic isn't it, if any words you type don't match the title of the OP you can say someone is off topic.
It's hard to stay on topic when you don't understand the topic.

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Genomicus
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Message 378 of 415 (669671)
08-01-2012 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 371 by Percy
08-01-2012 9:48 AM


To be fair, my Message 346 was every bit as off-topic as Bolder-dash's Message 369.
{Note from Adminnemooseus - I was in the process of also hiding and bannering message 370 when the forum quit responding (nothing but time out messages). I did finally complete the message 370 edit just before posting this note. I'll probably now get back to hiding your message 346 (and maybe others) soon.}
{Note from Admin: Board went down around 1:30 AM and stayed down until 9:43 AM.}
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note from Adminnemooseus.
Edited by Admin, : Note.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 379 of 415 (669673)
08-01-2012 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by Genomicus
08-01-2012 12:12 PM


To be fair, they never intended to be fair.
This is a coffee house forum after-all, there is no moderation.
But at least this message is entirely on topic-its exactly why there is a creationist shortage here. My message is the sole message that is moderated, and the sole message that is off topic.
You know Fox News has Bob Beckel.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 380 of 415 (669674)
08-01-2012 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 371 by Percy
08-01-2012 9:48 AM


This is an excellent discussion of a topic, it just doesn't happen to be this topic. If you'd like to discuss Genomicus's views on ID then just propose a thread over at Proposed New Topics.
What, under the biological evolution forums? Is that a parable or a very subtle joke?

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NoNukes
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Message 381 of 415 (669685)
08-01-2012 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 375 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 11:23 AM


Re: nobody gets banned for being off topic, wink.
Bolder-dash writes:
in a coffee house forum that is not supposed to be moderated you mean?
Who says the coffee house is unmoderated? I see that Free for All advertises that it is free of "most moderation", but I don't see any such claim in coffee house.
What's promised is that the discussion here are not limited to Evolution v. Creation.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 382 of 415 (669687)
08-01-2012 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 380 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 12:43 PM


Revisionist history;
I just went back and took a look at your last 10 or so posts in the biological evolution forum.
Your posting privileges were removed for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with being off topic. At the time your privileges were removed you had already given up on any attempt at productive discussion. In fact you were spoiling to be kicked out.
Here is what your last post looks like...
I have to tell you, that although Dr. A might be wrong about a lot of things, some would probably even fairly say virtually everything, he does happen to be this site's foremost authority on looking like a conceited *****.
I.d.i.o.t*
Edited by Bolder-dash, 05-20-2012 5:52 AM: *The asterisks spell out *****, but I just found out Percy's software only allows Dr. A to use the word ***** here, because again, he is an expert at looking like one, so he has a TM of sorts I guess. His is like the ***** King, its his domain.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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Panda
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Message 383 of 415 (669688)
08-01-2012 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 382 by NoNukes
08-01-2012 2:08 PM


Re: Revisionist history;
NoNukes writes:
Your posting privileges were removed for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with being off topic.
It looks like Bolder-dash doesn't think that the 9th Commandment applies to him.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Percy
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Message 384 of 415 (669692)
08-01-2012 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 379 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 12:36 PM


Bolder-dash writes:
This is a coffee house forum after-all, there is no moderation.
Coffee House isn't unmoderated, but moderators do tend to put more effort into the science forums and the religious forums. The forum most free from moderation is Free For All. Interestingly enough it's only explicitly stated requirement is "stay on topic."
--Percy

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Bolder-dash
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Message 385 of 415 (669705)
08-01-2012 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 382 by NoNukes
08-01-2012 2:08 PM


Revisionist Revisionist history;
That's very interesting research you did there nonukes. And gee, it almost gives the revisionist appearance that it was ME being trite and insulting, if one were to completely ignore what I was responding to..i.e Dr. A calling another poster a conceited i d i o t. Of course, I don't call people idiots here, because the software doesn't allow me to (insults are reserved for evolutionists use only). Fortunately that doesn't stop Dr. A , as he has the green badge to insult all he wants.
So yes, sure I was being provocative. Who else is going to point out the duplicitous-ness of how this site is run? You? We don't want the fence sitters to be confused and think this is an actual debate site, where BOTH sides get to present their opinions with equal rules do we?
Otherwise all those fence sitters might start to get confused and think that the reason creationists don't post much here is because they have nothing to say, or because they are idiots-since Dr. A always gets to call them that-rather than the truth.

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Panda
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Message 386 of 415 (669708)
08-01-2012 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 7:14 PM


Re: Revisionist Revisionist history;
Bolder-dash writes:
(insults are reserved for evolutionists use only)
And there is another lie by the creationist!
The list of your lies is growing steadily.
It is a good thing that your god loves liars and deceivers else he would look at your behaviour with contempt.
Anyway - keep up the good work.
Lying for god is good - he loves people lying in his name.
Nothing makes him happier, I am sure.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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NoNukes
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Message 387 of 415 (669711)
08-01-2012 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 7:14 PM


Re: Revisionist Revisionist history;
So yes, sure I was being provocative. Who else is going to point out the duplicitous-ness of how this site is run?
Two points.
First you've all but acknowledged that your claim to have been banned from the biological evolution forums for posting off topics is exposed to be incorrect. You'll never admit it explicitly, of course, but the truth is that you were off topic and insulting (and not just to Dr. A) on a regular basis even when your posts did include on topic content. You didn't just get into one dust up, you were disruptive, got suspended, returned in even more of a tizzy, were suspended, and finally you were banned from the only science forum you seem to post in in any volume.
Second, we can note that you don't get banned for being provocative, and insulting and untruthful, and disrespectful here and in other threads were the moderation of the board is properly the topic. You didn't even get a single warning when you posted your ridiculous screed in the topic proposal thread after returning from yet another suspension.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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Bolder-dash
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Message 388 of 415 (669712)
08-01-2012 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 387 by NoNukes
08-01-2012 8:47 PM


Re: Revisionist Revisionist history;
I am confused nonukes, was I suspended for being off topic or for being insulting?
It can't be because I was insulting, because the software doesn't even allow me to be insulting, I don't have the Dr. A Seal of Approval for being an insulting bore.
The topic is why is there a shortage of creationists. I have given you the reason-unequal treatment.
But I won't recommend to admin that you be suspended for being off topic. Your propaganda is safe here.
Edited by Bolder-dash, : No reason given.

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NoNukes
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Message 389 of 415 (669713)
08-01-2012 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 388 by Bolder-dash
08-01-2012 9:14 PM


Re: Revisionist Revisionist history;
I am confused nonukes, was I suspended for being off topic or for being insulting?
Nothing confusing about it, and I don't accept that the issue is at all difficult for you to understand. At the time you lost your posting privileges you were already on a short leash because of your prior poor behavior, and you'd even been warned that you were approaching some corrective action.
The triggering event was the final post that I already cited, but anyone who cares to can look up your posting history. I'd highly recommend that nobody take your word about what happened without checking for themselves.
It can't be because I was insulting, because the software doesn't even allow me to be insulting,
In the above sentence you effectively communicate that you believe me to be stupid. I'd find that insulting if I cared about your opinion.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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Bolder-dash
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Message 390 of 415 (669714)
08-01-2012 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 389 by NoNukes
08-01-2012 10:04 PM


Re: Revisionist Revisionist history;
There is a giant elephant in the room, I don't know why its so hard for you to see.
EVERYONE who posts here could be considered to be insulting at times, and everyone could be considered to be off topic. The one difference is that ONLY creationists who rock Percy's applecart are ever suspended for this (don't go saying its equal). Its not hard for anyone who is honest to see why that is so.

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