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Author Topic:   Genesis 1:1-5 — Day One
New Cat's Eye
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Message 81 of 110 (662545)
05-16-2012 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by ICANT
05-14-2012 2:03 AM


Re: light and life
Genesis 1:1 and the history of the day the Lord God created the heavens and the earth as given in Genesis 2:4-4:25.
There's 26 verses in Genesis 4. Why don't you explain to us why you have to leave the last one out?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 95 of 110 (663166)
05-21-2012 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by ICANT
05-17-2012 11:44 AM


Re: light and life
Actually, unless my memory fails me I leave 2 verses of chapter 4 out as I do not agree with the division into chapters made by Stephen Langton, an Archbishop of Canterbury.
Is that you admitting the KJV is erroneous?
My reasons for doing so is that there are 8 generations of people mentioned prior to the person known as Seth being born. Yet he was said to be born when his father was 120 years old. You do the math.
The second reason is that the book of the generations recorded in chapter 5 of the man created in Genesis 1:27 does not include any of the people in Genesis chapter 2:4 through 4:24.
The third reason is that the people in Genesis 2:4 through 4:24 have no ages attached to any of them. In fact there is only 2 deaths recorded of any of these people.
But your reasoning stems from maintaining your original position, which makes it circular, and thus illogical.
As I have stated to you several times if you would like to discuss this further, start a thread and make your arguments why you hold the position you hold.
We're in a thread right now. I hold my position in an effort to maintain the honest truth of the matter.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 96 of 110 (663167)
05-21-2012 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by NoNukes
05-21-2012 9:14 AM


Re: light and life
Are you discounting the last verse of chapter 4 as being inaccurate? I don't understand the reasons you give for not including that last verse as part of Genesis.
ICANT, iirc, hold the chronological order of Genesis to be this:
Gen 1:1 = the day god created the heavens and earth.
Within that one day, you have Gen 2:4, which happens during the day god created the earth, through the end of Gen 4 all happening within Gen 1:1.
Then, you have Gen 5 and forward happening just before Gen 1:2, with The Flud resulting in the formless void that is described in that verse.
Its a type of Gap Theory -- look it up on wiki
"Adam" can mean just "mankind" rather than an individual person. And there's the part about stuff happening "in the day" god created the earth.
The probelm is, that at the end of Gen 4, those last two verses, Adam gives birth to Seth who gives birth to Enoch. And at the begining of Gen 5, we have Adam giving birth to Seth who gives birth to Enoch. But according to his timeline, those are two unrelated groups of people because those in Gen 5 all die off before the earth becomes formless and void because of the flood as recorded in Gen 1:2. Then there's a whole new group of mankind. ICANT writes this off as a coincidence: i.e. there were enough people with those names that they don't have to referring to the exact same people.
Its pretty much the nail in the coffin of his whole explanation, so now he just doesn't include those last two versus as being a part of Chapter 4.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.

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