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Message 31 of 110 (661507)
05-07-2012 8:22 AM
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05-07-2012 7:59 AM


Re: The Light was Good
CreationJon writes:
Ahh. Well, the simple answer is that Light was just created after many of those other things (gravity might be an exception). We have matter existing before light; maybe not all matter and certainly not in all forms, but there was matter there first, nonetheless.
doesn't it worry you at all that you're just making this up? "Gravity might be an exception" You think?
Light is just the part of the electromagnetic spectrum that we can see. The only thing special about it is that we have receptors in our eyes to detect it. What about the rest of the spectrum that we can't see? Was that there too?

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Message 36 of 110 (661524)
05-07-2012 1:58 PM
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05-07-2012 8:48 AM


Re: The Light was Good
CreationJon writes:
However, I might suspect that it wasn't there at all. It would certainly fit with the notion of the formless matter being 'void
So, you reckon that most of the electromagnetic spectrum from gamma rays (sub 0.1nm) to long waves (1000m+) existed but the visible spectrum - the tiny bit between 400nm and 700nm - was missing?
Doesn't that sound just a bit daft to you?

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Message 40 of 110 (661530)
05-07-2012 3:19 PM
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05-07-2012 2:29 PM


Re: The Light was Good
CreationJon writes:
Well that's not what I said. Try again.
My apologies, I missread.

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Message 54 of 110 (662105)
05-12-2012 10:35 AM
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05-04-2012 11:44 PM


Re: The Light was Good
CreationJon writes:
Surely the Evolutionists will tell you that the Sun was first to form and from it the planets
You've said this a few times now. I'd just like to point out that 'evolutionists' (whoever they are) did not tell us the order that the universe was made in or how. That's the job of mathematicians and physicists. As a creationist, your fight is against the entirity of science, not just the biologists that study evolution.
As the opening passages of Genesis tell us, Earth was first made; after was made the light (though not yet the Sun, Moon, or Stars).
Most people think that the sun is responsible for most of the light we get here on earth, so are you saying that before god made the sun, he lit the earth by some other mechanism?

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Message 56 of 110 (662117)
05-12-2012 1:27 PM
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05-12-2012 1:10 PM


Re: The Light was Good
CreationJon writes:
I'm saying there was Light before the Sun existed, yes. But I think even evolutionists would agree with such a statement
If there was no sun, moon or stars, where was the light coming from that illuminated the earth?
(This has nothing to do with evolution or evolutionists - you dounderstand that don't you?)

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Message 59 of 110 (662138)
05-12-2012 6:04 PM


Bloody hell....light energy but no light or no sun but light.
Are you sure you want to argue either of these positions?
Edited by Tangle, : Typo

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Message 62 of 110 (662172)
05-13-2012 3:16 AM
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bluescat48 writes:
There was light energy, but the light needed on earth is the electromagnetic spectrum from the sun, the visible is not of matter, but the infrared & ultraviolet are.
I'll ask you what I asked CJ when I thought he was saying the same thing.
So, you reckon that most of the electromagnetic spectrum from gamma rays (sub 0.1nm) to long waves (1000m+) existed but the visible spectrum - the tiny bit between 400nm and 700nm - was missing?
Doesn't that sound just a bit daft to you?

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Message 77 of 110 (662260)
05-14-2012 3:42 AM
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05-13-2012 7:49 PM


Re: The Light was Good
The quantum electron-entanglement paradox was unstable in these early days.
"The Bullshit is strong in this one"

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