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Author Topic:   Nature belongs to ID
Nuggin
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Message 9 of 146 (661534)
05-07-2012 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Vanessa
05-06-2012 12:38 PM


I attended a five day Intelligent Design conference to see if it really was 'religion masquerading as science'. I was impressed with the level of scientific evidence supporting ID.

It took 5 days?! Seriously?

I can debunk everything you learned in just a few lines of text.

#1) If life on Earth was "intelligently designed", it must have been designed by SOMETHING. That thing is either naturally evolved/abiogenesis life _or_ is magic. Those are the only two options. If naturally evolved/abiogenesis life can and does exist, then claiming that life on Earth isn't that but was instead created by it gets you no where in your argument. If it doesn't exist, then you are just preaching Creationism with one additional step in between.

Neither argument is valid.

#2) "cdesign proponentists". If you can cut and paste a term out of an entire textbook and replace it in all instances with a different term, yet the concepts, meanings and implications of the text are not altered in any way, then those two terms are equivalent. Cutting and pasting "creationists" out and putting "design proponents" in didn't change any part of the Dover textbook. Therefore the two terms mean the same thing.

Total time to type this: 2.5 minutes.

Five days of debunking down the drain. Laughable.


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Nuggin
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Message 55 of 146 (661754)
05-09-2012 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by foreveryoung
05-09-2012 6:31 PM


I cannot possible conceive

Pretty much sums up your entire problem


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Nuggin
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Message 57 of 146 (661762)
05-09-2012 7:22 PM
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05-09-2012 7:21 PM


Or......It could possibly sum up YOUR entire problem.

Yes, as far as this "argument" goes, your inability to conceive is my entire problem.

If you were able to comprehend the subject, there would be no basis for argument. There are no educated creationists.


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Nuggin
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Message 70 of 146 (661947)
05-11-2012 2:59 AM
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05-11-2012 12:20 AM


That isn't what I said.

Here's a tip.

If you are going to accuse someone of misquoting you, you shouldn't do it on a forum where people can scroll back and are see what was written.

I quoted you correctly, and I explained my position.

Your lack of education makes debate difficult.

As for mental inflexibility on the part of those here who support materialism, you've got us. We all insist that the real world is real and that unreal things don't exist.

IF you have _evidence_ that proves that things which do not exist in fact do exist, I'd love to see it.

By the way, "A jew wrote this" is not "evidence".


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