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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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Hi Scotty,
There are many plants and species that are in the same fossil bed as dinosaurs. True enough. Yet none of them are humans. I would love to hear your explanation for this. Why are there no fossil beds that combine human and dinosaur fossils? Mutate and Survive
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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Would Dinosaurs and humans live in the same place? If dinosaurs were big and furious would man and them live next door? Oh definitely. Without a doubt. Learned scholars tell us so. I'm just going off of your evidence;
ScottyDouglas writes: A legendary stroy of Yu killing dragons and reptiles from his land. Many stories tell of cultures rasing and keeping dragons. in Ireland 900ad ScottyDouglas writes: Marco Polo in 1271 ad recorded that the Chinese emporer had large reptiles or dargons that pulled his chariot. ScottyDouglas writes: Ica, Peru - Nazca Indians 1 ad to 750 ad Ica stonesThis culture produced many crafts and artwork. This culture produced massive amounts of carvings and painting that have actual well known dinosaurs on them. These are well recorded acient discoveries that relate that dinosaurs and large ones were a everyday exsperience to these people. Well who could argue with that!? In message 1 you presented an astonishing wealth of evidence that dragons (or so-called "dinosaurs") existed alongside man for many years. They were evidently kept as beasts of burden. I for one was profoundly convinced by this seemingly irrefutable evidence. The truth was undeniable! Now you're trying to tell me that dinosaurs didn't live with man? That it just isn't a plausible idea? I have to say that I'm disappointed. C'mon Scotty, you were doing so well! If How about that? You show me some dragon bones and some human fossils within, say, 50 million years of each other? Anything? Mutate and Survive
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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Though I must admit that Ica stones were claimed a Hoax. By the maker.
But somehow you forgot to mention that when you first brought them up.
Richard Dawkins, of Oxford has this to say "alleged human bones in the Carboniferous coal deposits. If authenticated as human, these bones would blow the theory of evolution out of the water." Yeah, but he also had this to say;
quote: Source; richarddawkins.net/articles/115
These are photos from the AD 2004 fossil dinosaur and human footprint excavation. Nice photos of the excavation. A pity they didn't think to include any photos of the actual footprints.
The above four photos were taken at the excavation On the Cretaceous Rock ledges along the Paluxy River You mean the notorious fraudulent footprints?
This 11 inch long fossil human footprint impression shown above was excavated on July 6, 1983 by Dr. Carl Baugh You mean the notorious fraudster Carl Bough?
FIGURE 3. This right handprint in cretaceous limestone was so unique and so obviously human that the archaeologist in charge of the excavation was given permission by the land owner to remove this ichnite for further evaluation. Really. Where is it now?
You deny the evidence and claim lack there of. Simple reality is: that mass amounts of civilzations throughout history have cliamed giant men and dinosaur and/or dragons. Giants too? Wow. You're awesome. Please post here as often as possible. Mutate and Survive
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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Hi foreveryoung,
While I don't agree with scotty in the least, you are falsely accusing him citing a hoax as evidence. Indeed he cited the hoax, but the hoax itself was not the evidence; it was science's inability to correctly date the stones that scotty used as evidence. He was saying that if science cannot correctly date artifacts, why should we believe they can correctly date dinosaur bones? Except that this isn't what he originally said. Take a look at the OP;
ScottyDouglas writes: Physical evidence that dinosaurs lived with man!The truth is undeniable! Ica, Peru - Nazca Indians 1 ad to 750 ad Ica stonesThis culture produced many crafts and artwork. This culture produced massive amounts of carvings and painting that have actual well known dinosaurs on them. These are well recorded acient discoveries that relate that dinosaurs and large ones were a everyday exsperience to these people. in 1535 Spanish came through Peru and reported finding stones with strange creatures on them. In Mexico over 56 thousand clay figurines were found all depicting dinosaurs. The age of these figurines are around 2000 bc. It is well known that the Aztecs portrayed serpents and dragons in thier culture. Many people today still claim seeing an array of long ago exstinct dinosaurs. He's not making an argument about dubious dating at all. He's just citing the stones (amongst other bits of tosh) and saying "Look! Models of dinosaurs! HUMANS AND DINOSAURS MUST HAVE LIVED TOGETHER!!!". Scotty was quite content to cite the stones as evidence without bothering until later to mention that they were a known fraud.
The only way scotty could have used the hoax as evidence is he were trying to say the stones were as old as hoaxster originally said they were. No. He used them as evidence that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. He did so in a completely straight-faced manner. Take another look;
Scotty Douglas writes: This culture produced massive amounts of carvings and painting that have actual well known dinosaurs on them. These are well recorded acient discoveries that relate that dinosaurs and large ones were a everyday exsperience to these people. Nothing about dubious dating. That was just a smokescreen that Scotty conjured up later in the thread, presumably after he realised that the Ica stones are a hoax. He's just making excuses. It's deplorable, but sadly, not unprecedented. There is a certain class of creationist who will use any argument at all, even ones that they know full well are fake. It doesn't matter whether it's true or not to these guys, all that matters is its effectiveness as apologetics. I do not believe that you belong to this category of creationist. I think you are more honest than that. I would urge you not to defend such dishonest tactics, whether it's creationists using them or evolutionists. There is one thing that's confusing me though; you say you don't agree with Scotty, but the other day you said that you believed the Noahic Flood took place before the dinosaurs. Since that story involves humans, doesn't that mean that you should be agreeing with Scotty? For your model to be true, wouldn't humans and dinosaurs necessarily have co-existed? By the way, I would like to second everything that arachnophilia said about dating the stones. Mutate and Survive
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