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Author Topic:   Applying Ocam's Razor To BB vs Biblical ID Creationism and EvC
Tangle
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Message 6 of 38 (662912)
05-19-2012 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
05-19-2012 3:36 PM


Ocam's razor is a philosopher's tool to make their lives a little easier - beyond trying to organise hypotheses into their most likely order it doesn't and can't solve a problem in science. Science needs evidence and the simplest solution is not a requirement for the correct answer.

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Message 25 of 38 (662931)
05-20-2012 4:14 AM
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Dr.A writes:
To take an example I often use, suppose I leave my dog alone with a slice of pizza, and when I come back the pizza is gone. I might conjecture that the pizza was stolen by pizza-stealing fairies, but this involves introducing an entity otherwise unevidenced, whereas I already possess evidence for the existence of a pizza-eating dog. There is no need to add a hypothetical entity when I have a real one to hand.
Sure, like I said, Occam (or, some would say, common sense) will help you prioritise hypotheses and it would correctly claim that the dog is by far the simpest and most likely solution. But it proves nothing.
To prove Occam's preferrence that 'it was the dog wot done done it, yer honour', science would examine the contents of its stomach to find the evidence.
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Message 30 of 38 (662936)
05-20-2012 7:25 AM
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05-20-2012 7:15 AM


Re: Evidence of Observed Phenomena
Buz writes:
Application of Ocam's Razor supports ID conclusions, more-so than those of narrow minded scecularistic minded skeptics.
Simply saying it's so, doesn't make it so, Buz.
You keep claiming to have provided evidence for the belief in a creationist god, but so far I haven't seen any that counts as real evidence - just spectulation and assumption plus a huge pile of many times refuted error.
What's your best shot at real evidence?

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