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Author Topic:   Evolution/Creationism - Two sides of the same coin
Adminnemooseus
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Message 2 of 6 (663162)
05-21-2012 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Vanessa
05-21-2012 4:49 AM


In this forum the debate Evolution vs Creationism is reduced to Science vs Religion, which are two different perspectives on life, with different ways of explaining life.
As I understand Percy's (Admin's) intent for this forum, it it Evolution (Science) vs. Creation Science - It is science vs. creationist claims that they have some aspect of science on their side. It is also scientific worldly reality vs. religious beliefs that conflict with that worldly reality (eg. old Earth vs. young Earth).
...The same goes for scripture. It clearly denotes a progression of biology on Earth (evolution),...
Unfortunately, the Genesis story is mighty thin on details, and even then, some of the Genesis sequence is at odds with the scientific evidence.
Evolution viewed through a religious perspective (current understanding) is the result of God's work.
I don't have a grasp of what you've said elsewhere at evcforum.net (frankly, I just haven't paid any attention). But this topic's message 1 leads me to think that you don't have any personal problems with the scientific perspective of old Earth biological evolution. The "result of God's work" perspective could range from deism (God started the universe and then set it free) to some sort of hidden Godly micromanagement (theistic evolution??? / intelligent design???) of the evolutionary (non-biological and/or biological) path.
How it happened, we don't know because no one was there to record it - mystery of God's work.
I have to say "wrong". The processes have left evidences behind. And God hasn't left any obvious fingerprints on those evidences.
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Adminnemooseus
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Message 6 of 6 (663284)
05-22-2012 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Vanessa
05-22-2012 3:58 AM


You argue from the position of the current explanation of evolution (mutation provides the drive by which natural selection steers the course of evolution). You presume this to be accurate. You presume this to be the only scientific explanation and any argument against this explanation to be religiously driven and thereby unscientific. I completely disagree. I think the explanation is false. My disagreement is based on rational argument and evidence.
Over the course of my activity in the forum I hope to show there is another way of regarding evolution that can stand on its own merit, without having to pit itself against religion.
This makes me think you are advocating some variety of theistic evolution (evolution via some small or maybe large guidance by God).
If you are going to do this elsewhere in the forum, then this proposed topic is dead. If you are going to do it in this topic, then you need to post an introduction to your theory of theistic evolution. You can do such via a new message in this topic. We can then hide the upthread material and direct attention to the new message, effectively making that new message the topic's message 1. Another variation is that an individual message can be literally made (by an admin) the message 1 of the promoted topic.
Adminnemooseus
ABE - Topic proposer has not posted anywhere for about 2 months. Closing this topic without promotion on July 20, 2012.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : ABE.

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