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Author Topic:   Evolution versus Creationism is a 'Red Herring' argument
New Cat's Eye
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Message 14 of 136 (665222)
06-10-2012 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by PaulGL
05-27-2012 2:11 PM


Have we met?
The human error in the promotion and promulgation of evolution was, and still is, of two aspects: Firstly, as we shall see later on in this chapter, the school of thought that gave rise to the theory of evolution- Uniformitarianism? is totally in contradiction to scientific evidence. Uniformitarianism was founded on insufficient and incomplete data, and the motives for its adoption were more anti?Genesis than they were pro?scientific.
I don't see that as a problem... regardless of it: evolution is the best explanation of the data we have.
The second mistake, resulting from the same anti?spiritual motivation as the first, was in the use of evolution as one pillar of a mechanistic explanation capable of circumventing the problem of first cause, i.e., the origination of everything. Evolution is merely a process and is not an explanation of actual creation; the explanation of creation per se does not lie within the realm of scientific explanation.
Again a non-issue. Evolution still explains the data. The ramifications are no problem for the explanation.
What would cause some of the better scientific minds of the last century to illogically jump to conclusions in a frenzied effort to discredit the Bible in general and Genesis in particular? What would cause religious people to feel compelled to attack evolution as if they were defending the Faith? The answer to these questions is obvious if we rephrase them with the word who instead of what. Who has always endeavored to cause the human race to strain out a gnat and swallow a camel? None other than our most subtle enemy, Satan.
How would you have us debate whether Satan was responsible for the EvC debate or not?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 48 of 136 (665454)
06-13-2012 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by PaulGL
06-11-2012 4:13 PM


Re: Sorry, no spare time now. Beg your forgiveness
Sorry, no spare time now. Beg your forgiveness.
We prefer quality over quantity. Take your time and write up a good post. We'll be here.
AMFTHR:
Huh!?
written 2 years ago.
We prefer to have a dialog. Respond to what we say with an actual response to what we say.
Author's Note: Since my writing of this section, rock specimens have been found in Antarctica that have been shown to have been at one time on the surface of Mars; and also some which had, at one time, been on the surface of the far side of the moon.
Also, within the last decade a complete, detailed planetary topological mapping of Venus was carried out by satellite. Venus has a violent (600 mph) and corrosive (sulphuric acid) atmosphere. Yet craters (with little or no detectable erosion) were found that had to have been formed within recent, perhaps historical times. This alone directly disproves Uniformitarianism.
So what? Evolution is still the best explanation of the data we have. I don't see any reason to discuss Uniformiatianism. Is that really what you wanted this topic to be about? I thought this was supposed to be about the EvC argument being a red herring...
When NOVA asked an astrophysicist about this, his reply was: ‘I don’t see how Uniformitarianism can ever possibly explain those craters. But I’m not willing to give it up.’
Sir, your answer is the epitome of religious dogmatism and not that of objective, scientific methodology.
Well whoopty-do. EvC... Red herring... Go!
Will reply better at future time, when have some time. Very good reasoning and informative input by you. PaulGL
Take the time to reply to what we're actually saying and stay on the topic and don't copy and paste stuff.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 134 of 136 (668873)
07-25-2012 12:52 PM


Did this thread ever get to the alleged Red Herring?

  
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