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Author Topic:   Stand Your Ground ... Again
fearandloathing
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Message 4 of 46 (665534)
06-14-2012 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
06-14-2012 4:40 PM


Stand your ground laws are double edged.
I would have called the law and let them deal with it, I think it was a poor choice to carry a camera and a gun to a neighbors party to complain about noise. Defending yourself is one thing, but when you feel the need to arm yourself before asking a neighbor to cut it down then you should probably let law deal with it. The camera, I am sure didn't help. Alcohol may have been a contributing factor also?
I think Rodriguez made a series of poor decisions.

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
― Edward R. Murrow
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

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fearandloathing
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Message 10 of 46 (665551)
06-14-2012 6:22 PM


Setting Good Examples
Headline.... "Former fireman Kills Teacher"

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
― Edward R. Murrow
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

  
fearandloathing
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Message 40 of 46 (665683)
06-15-2012 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Jon
06-15-2012 3:55 PM


Whether R was within the scope of the law is almost beside the point once it goes before a jury. A different jury may have set him free.
As I said in Message 4, I think he made a few bad decisions. After watching the video I feel he should have known better than to confront drunken people with a camera and a gun, he was a fireman and am sure he probably dealt with a few drunken people before.
I say make the law earn their money. I will defend myself, but in a situation like that calling the police for help would have maybe saved a life and kept him from having to go through this and pull 20+ years maybe.
abe... In a perfect world you may be right, but once a add a jury and lawyers, personalities..... ????
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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
― Edward R. Murrow
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

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fearandloathing
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Message 43 of 46 (665690)
06-15-2012 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by subbie
06-15-2012 5:21 PM


Any actual evidence to support this claim?
In modern times, last 20 years?
Or can we include the Jim crow years?

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
― Edward R. Murrow
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

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fearandloathing
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Message 45 of 46 (665693)
06-15-2012 5:50 PM
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06-15-2012 5:35 PM


Your right, I guess what I wanted to say was when you add in people, innocent and guilty by the letter of the law can be beside the point. LOL, it is funny what will set me into RANT mode.
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― Edward R. Murrow
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

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