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Taq
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Message 47 of 56 (666280)
06-25-2012 1:21 PM


I have always asked creationists this question:
You developed from a single cell into a fully functioning, multicellular human being in just 9 months. If this does not violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, then how does the same thing occuring over a 3 billion year time period violate the same law?
To counter this argument, creationists have actually argued that the laws of thermodynamics can be violated within the womb. I kid you not. They also try to claim that if you have instructions on how to violate the laws of thermodynamics (i.e. DNA) then it can occur. I guess all we need are plans which say that a body of water at equilibrium can spontaneously produce boiling water and ice cubes at the drop of a hat.

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Message 50 of 56 (666292)
06-25-2012 2:29 PM
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06-25-2012 2:19 PM


The ironic thing is that they don't realise that eating bypasses the 2LoT.
That is actually a misleading statement. No reaction bypasses the 2LoT. Rather, a reduction in entropy is fully allowed when energy is added to the system. A freezer does not bypass the 2LoT when it produces ice cubes from tepid water in a room at 70 degrees F. Rather, it requires an input of energy just as the 2LoT states it should.

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Message 54 of 56 (666299)
06-25-2012 4:27 PM
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They insist it applies to everything and that sunlight on skin damages DNA so increases entropy which shows that sunlight can't put energy into earth's systems.
And in doing so they only highlight their ignorance since I am very, very sure that pyrimidine dimerization requires a local decrease in entropy. Sadly, their misunderstandings of entropy go very, very deep and is only compounded by their anti-intellectualism.

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