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dronestar
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Message 55 of 410 (666720)
06-29-2012 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by onifre
06-29-2012 2:25 PM


When I was in Vanuatu (a Melanesian Pacific Island), I found out that boys were circumcised around the ages of 10-12 years old during their manhood/initiation rites. During their recovery they stayed in 'sacred huts' for a week or so. Not sure about the 'surgical' procedure they are using today, but the boys WERE cut, without anesthesia, using broken/sharpened seashells a fact that makes me, . . . ummm, . . . 'recoil' . . . in terror to this day!
Anyways, . . . the women seemed to be horny little islanders. They were surprisingly outspoken FOR the ritual. They said they prefer the taste.
quote:
JERRY SEINFELD: Ever see one [uncircumcised penis]?
ELAINE: Ya.
JERRY SEINFELD: What'd you think?
ELAINE: (shakes her head) No, . . . had no face, no personality. It was like a martian. But that's just me.

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Message 63 of 410 (666729)
06-29-2012 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Jazzns
06-29-2012 3:19 PM


Re: Should be outlawed
J writes:
We widely recognize that female circumcision is wrong and condemn it at the highest levels in our society.
From what I understand, female circumcision is done to remove the pleasure aspect of sex from the women to inhibit her from having pre-marital sex so she can marry as a virgin, and to inhibit her from wanting to cheat on her future husband.
For THESE reasons, do you still believe there is a credible comparable parallel to a man being circumcised?

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Message 71 of 410 (666739)
06-29-2012 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Jazzns
06-29-2012 3:53 PM


Re: AAP on hygiene
Hey, to impress women, I had mine pierced, tatooed, split down the middle, and have little dancing bears come out on the hour to chime my balls.
Amazing what you have to do to compete with the multi-billion dollar entertainment business these days.
(If Oni isn't going to do any dick jokes, somebody has to)
Edited by dronester, : No reason given.

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Message 74 of 410 (666742)
06-29-2012 4:12 PM
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06-29-2012 4:03 PM


Re: Should be outlawed
J writes:
There is unfortunatly a variety of kinds of female circumcision that I will readily admit are NOT comparable.
I am only aware of the type I previously wrote about. What are the others?

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Message 78 of 410 (666747)
06-29-2012 4:19 PM
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06-29-2012 4:10 PM


Re: Should be outlawed
Jon writes:
Your argument cuts both ways and all ways.
Well this topic IS about circumcision.

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Message 84 of 410 (666754)
06-29-2012 4:33 PM
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06-29-2012 4:23 PM


Re: Should be outlawed
Jazzns writes:
If you and ringo think that the freedom to take a sunday drive is the same as the freedom to slice off body parts, then I cannot concieve of anything I could say that can talk you down from that position.
Jazzns, that is one of the funniest juxtapositions I have ever read on this forum.

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Message 88 of 410 (666759)
06-29-2012 4:38 PM
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06-29-2012 4:26 PM


Re: Should be outlawed
No, I am sorry, I meant for what other reasons is female circumcision done. I mentioned the virgin and cheating reasons. Any others?
Jazzns writes:
What some cultures do to their women is truly horrifying.
Yes, seriously, it is sometimes beyond horrifying. Did you catch the Nat Geo magazine article about Afghan child brides. About six months, one year ago? There are graphic photos. It made me want to cry.

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Message 391 of 410 (667173)
07-03-2012 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 384 by onifre
07-03-2012 2:56 PM


Re: Summary
Oni writes:
Women love it.
I dare say, this single justification trumps ALL other concerns. With it, this thread should have been over at TWO posts.
(Thanks ma and pa for caring and loving me and giving me the GIFT of circumcision.)
Oni writes:
This thread is ridiculous.
This thread has been mutilated.
Edited by dronester, : appreciation message
Edited by dronester, : whoops.
Edited by dronester, : clarity

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Message 407 of 410 (667307)
07-05-2012 4:26 PM


drA writes:
Do we confer upon parents the right to perform a cruel, barbaric, unnecessary and irrevocable act of mutilation on their children, . . .
SCENE ONE, ACT ONE: Veteran's Hospital in Virginia. Two men in white coats gently seat a visibly distrought marine in a psychiatrist's office.
Military Psychiatrist: Thank you gentlemen, you can leave me alone with the patient.
[the two caretakers give a delayed look at each other, and with the Psychiatrist' nod, they leave.]
Military Psychiatrist: OK, you have nothing to fear here, can we talk? I understand you were brought here, sobbing in a strait jacket. [His eyes drop to the charts] From your records, I see you experienced the Falujah massacre in Iraq. I recall that young teen boys were determined to be . . . 'militant targets', and were gunned down. Their heads exploded from shells like ripe pumpkins dropped from a ten story building. A pretty irrevocable act, eh? Is this the reason for your breakdown?
Macho Marine: [wiping his teary eyes] Uhh, no, doc. Noth . . . nothing like that.
Military Psychiatrist: Hmmm. Perhaps it was your position in Israel during the civilian massacre with phosphorus weapons. I understand the burning cannot be extinguished, it will burn right down to the bone.
Macho Marine: Well, yeah, I saw children as young as two years old get targeted by phosphorus weapons made in the USA. The shrieking from their pain was real loud Doc. Reeeal loud!
Military Psychiatrist: Ahh, . . . so THAT barbarity is the cause of your inconsolable despair?
Macho Marine: No, . . . no. Like all proportionate americans, I am pretty oblivious to 'foreigner' screams of pain. [leaning to the doc in a whisper] They weren't even christians.
Military Psychiatrist: Hmmm. Well then, . . . I have reports that you were apprehended running down the street with an ak-47 screaming . . . uuuh, [looking at his report] , ahhh, here it is . . . "Monsters! Cruel hideous barbarians . . . what have you done!?" Surely this must be from some bloody episode of torture you witnessed at Bagram interrogation center while under US control.
Macho Marine: [Regaining his composure] No, no, no Doc! It wasn't like any of those common-place things. You see . . . uhhh . . .
Military Psychiatrist: [leaning in] Yes my boy . . . go on . . .
Macho Marine: . . . I was at the YMCA this morning. I had a great workout and being a little sweaty, I went to take a shower. There were other men in the stalls. I didn't notice right away, but then suddenly I saw a . . . I saw a . . .
Military Psychiatrist: . . . yesss [encouraging with nodding] . . . yesss . . .
Macho Marine:[tears welling up in his eyes] . . . a CIRCUMCISED MAN!!! [the brave marine breaks down again. Tears are unextinguishable]
Military Psychiatrist: Oh! . . . Dear sweet merciful God in Heaven! [trying his best to steady his nerves] That is just . . . that is just . . . [lower lip quibbles] . . . uhhh, [clenches jaw] . . . HORRIBLE [breaks down in tears, hugging the macho marine]. In forty years . . . I . . . I have . . . heard a lot of terrible stories while a military psychiatrist, but nothing so . . . irrevocably . . . DAMNABLE! I mean, this . . . this is one-million times worse than the atrocities of the holocaust. . . . LITERALLY, one-million times worse.
LIGHTS FADE OUT.
SCENE TWO, ACT ONE: Confessional at Saint Pauls
Priest: Go on my boy, what are your sins . . .
Macho Marine: Well, I was in the voting booth and I accidentally selected the democratic candidate and I . . .
Priest: [gasps] Vile sinner! Damm you to HELLLLLLLLL!!! . . .
Edited by dronester, : consistency

  
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