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Author Topic:   German judge rules child circumcision as child abuse.
Panda
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Message 20 of 410 (666673)
06-29-2012 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
06-29-2012 11:26 AM


Re: Should be outlawed
jar writes:
The risk factor is extremely low.
There is not even much risk of future psychological trauma.
We should be allowed to tattoo are children too?
How about breast implants for 10 year olds?
Either we allow parents to permanently mutilate their children or we don't.
I prefer that we don't.
But I guess that's just an atheist's point of view.

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Message 311 of 410 (667078)
07-02-2012 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by jar
07-02-2012 9:37 PM


Re: Culture
jar writes:
No, I do not agree that I am in anyway defending circumcision.
Therefore we can carry on advocating the banning of circumcisions without further objections from you?
Good.
Oh...unless you want to defend circumcisions? Do you?
No?
Ok. Good.
Circumcisions should be banned.
You aren't going to change your mind and start arguing that parents should be allowed to circumcise their children are you?
Because that would go against circumcision being banned.
That would mean you were defending circumcision.
And we all know that you "do not agree that I am in anyway defending circumcision."
No, no. You wouldn't do anything to defend circumcision.
You are true to your word.
You would surely not do anything that would in anyway defend circumcision.
In summary: you would not defend circumcision if someone was to demand them being made illegal.
Excellent.
Phew.
At least we got that all cleared up.

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Message 313 of 410 (667080)
07-02-2012 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 312 by jar
07-02-2012 10:06 PM


Re: Culture
jar writes:
I am defending...
Oh dear.
Not a man of your word then.

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Message 326 of 410 (667094)
07-03-2012 5:20 AM
Reply to: Message 325 by Kairyu
07-03-2012 2:13 AM


Evidence.
Kairyu writes:
I propose to specifically debate the pros and cons of circumcision
Bluegenes has supplied evidence against circumcision way back in message 174.
No-one has been able to counter it; no-one has even tried.
And, noticeably, no-one has supplied any evidence in favour of circumcision.
When Oni's tongue-in-cheek argument about blow-jobs is the best argument put forward; you would expect all those defending circumcision (jar, etc.) to realise that they do not have a leg to stand on.

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Message 340 of 410 (667110)
07-03-2012 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 339 by jar
07-03-2012 9:01 AM


Re: Culture
CrashFrog writes:
shouldn't individuals be afforded the personal choice whether to have their penises circumcised?
jar writes:
No, I do not think that an infant should decide whether or not he should be circumcised.
And that is you avoiding the question.

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Message 342 of 410 (667113)
07-03-2012 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 341 by jar
07-03-2012 9:33 AM


Re: Culture
jar writes:
Sorry but I do not see how my reply is avoiding the question.
Well, it doesn't answer the question.
jar writes:
When it comes to male infant circumcision I believe the decision should be made by the parents of the infant and their doctors.
That also doesn't answer CrashFrog's question.
Here is the question again:
Shouldn't individuals be afforded the personal choice whether to have their penises circumcised?
Try answering the question using the word 'individuals' and not using the word 'infant'.
I'm not at all sure how I can make it much clearer.
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Message 350 of 410 (667122)
07-03-2012 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 344 by jar
07-03-2012 10:44 AM


Re: Culture
Panda writes:
Shouldn't individuals be afforded the personal choice whether to have their penises circumcised?
Try answering the question using the word 'individuals' and not using the word 'infant'.
jar writes:
No, because the subject i infant male circumcision.
So...infants are not individuals?
Are they Borg?
CrashFrog must have really hit the nail on the head if you are having such difficulty answering such a simple question.

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Message 355 of 410 (667128)
07-03-2012 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 354 by jar
07-03-2012 10:53 AM


Re: Culture
jar writes:
No, infants are not individuals, they are infants.
Hahahahaha!
You are now just saying absolutely anything to avoid answering the question!
Let's follow your warped argument for a minute:
Are Pitbulls dogs? No, they are Pitbulls! According to jar, Pitbulls are not dogs!
Are M&M's sweets? No, they are M&M's! According to jar, M&M's are not sweets!
Infants are individuals.
Here's the standard definitions of 'individual' - you can see they describe an infant.
quote:
A single human considered apart from a society or community.
A human regarded as a unique personality.
A person distinguished from others by a special quality.
You have really been handed your butt.
CrashFrog's question has left you spouting nonsense.

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Message 362 of 410 (667135)
07-03-2012 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 357 by jar
07-03-2012 11:17 AM


Re: Summary
jar writes:
*jar yet again avoids the question*
So - still no answer.
I'll ask again, just in case you ever feel the urge to debate honestly:
Shouldn't individuals be afforded the personal choice of whether to have their penises circumcised or not?
{abe}
Actually, don't bother.
You clearly can't answer a simple question.
Asking you to do the impossible just "annoys the pig".
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