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Dr Adequate
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Message 61 of 150 (667337)
07-06-2012 2:04 AM
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07-04-2012 9:01 PM



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Message 62 of 150 (667338)
07-06-2012 2:46 AM
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07-05-2012 10:54 PM


Re: Substanceless Yada
Buzsaw writes:


It appears that since a number of the respondents can't refute the substance of my OP that they are having these off topic vile discussions among themselves. They are doing their best to derail the thread.

The substance of your post is:

1. God is cursing America
2. This is evidenced by an increasing number of disasters hitting the USA
3. The reason for the curse is a) sodomy b) America cursing Israel

So, given your audience, you might have expected to be asked for some supporting facts to back up each of those claims or at least be able to explain why previous disasters aren't also God's curse for similar - or different - Brokeback Mountain shenanigans.

Of course you may simply have been told this by God himself? Perhaps that's how you Know The Mind of God?


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Message 63 of 150 (667339)
07-06-2012 5:44 AM
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07-05-2012 10:43 PM


Re: Re
Buzsaw writes:

As for sodomy, it's pretty much a recent phemona, ever increasing since the sixties when they came out of their closets


Buzsaw writes:

God destroyed Sodom and Gohmorra by fire so suddenly that no one escaped, due to the prevelance of homosexuality, i.e. a city from which the term sodomy was derived to depict homosexuality


You appear to be arguing against yourself and losing...

p.s.
I realise that evidence makes is against your religion, but here's some anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#History

Edited by Panda, : No reason given.


CRYSTALS!!

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Message 64 of 150 (667341)
07-06-2012 6:32 AM
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07-05-2012 9:45 AM


About earthquakes in The Netherands...
Panda writes:

More telling is the lack of earthquakes in Holland - a cesspit of liberal ideology: weed and gay sex for all.


Quite, the strongest Earthquake ever recorded in The Netherlands (Not Holland, you ignorant Brit ) was that of 1992 in Roermond. Thats the city I live in, by the way. It was 5.8 on the richter scale. This was before we introduced the possibilities for gay people to get married, so it seems god likes what we did. Perhaps god is punishing you Americans for not being liberal enough with your gay population. Repent and have butt-sex!

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Message 65 of 150 (667342)
07-06-2012 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Buzsaw
07-05-2012 10:54 PM


Re: Substanceless Yada
It appears that since a number of the respondents can't refute the substance of my OP that they are having these off topic vile discussions among themselves. They are doing their best to derail the thread.

Still waiting for that graph i asked you for in

Message 43 of 63 (667303)
Thursday, 05-07-2012 9:23 PM

You know the one showing a rise in natural disasters, or at least a rise in deathtoll in those natural disasters, or at least a rise in property damage or whatever you can show correlates to your god hates gays so he is punishing the America theory.

Its not that hard i provided you with the data for the past 200 years now all you have to do is input it in to excel or a similar program and make a graph. If you are right we should see a huge spike in the last years.

P.s. How can you be sure its the gays fault or not giving more support to israel. Its not like you are not doing worse things that brake the big 10 donts of your gods commandments.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. - Dont you americans worship money nowdays

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. - Its not like you are doing any of this right no pictures of heaven hell or underwater exploration videos right

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. - yea not like anyone says something like god dammit every once in a while.

4. Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you. - today's kids dont show much respect to their elders do they?

5. remember the sabbath day - yea right how many do

6. Dont kill - yea America brakes that one 45 times per day

7. dont commit adultery - i think America basicly owns the rights to brake this one.

8. Dont steal

Every 3.2 seconds - One property crime occurs
Every 14.4 seconds - One burglary occurs
Every 4.8 seconds - One larceny-theft occurs
Every 26.4 seconds - One motor vehicle theft occurs

9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. - dont have any stats on this one what do you think?

10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
- All you americans do is covet your rich peoples stuff and hot wives.

So what makes you think its the gays fault and not the list above?

Edited by frako, : No reason given.


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Percy
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Message 66 of 150 (667343)
07-06-2012 6:53 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by dwise1
07-05-2012 2:11 AM


Re: Disasters
dwise1 writes:

In 1955, one year before that calamitous decision, that same offending blasphemy was ordered to be printed on all our money.

I guess since you say "printed" you're referring to paper money, but ask Buz about going off the gold standard - that was a biggie, and God only knows why he waited 'till now to really start punishing us in earnest.

--Percy


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Message 67 of 150 (667344)
07-06-2012 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by frako
07-06-2012 6:36 AM


Re: Other Factors
Frako, if you re-read, you'll note that I cited the two as the two biggies that tick God off.

Your list, however, is significant in that it's all part of what is filling God's wrath cup to the running over, so as to fall upon the nation. We have become a bankrupt nation, morally, monetarily, culturally and you name it.

We are the richest but one of the sickest among nations. Go to a Chinese Restaurant. How many obese staff do see in them? There is an epidemic of obesity among junk food consuming adults and children alike in our nation. We destroy our bodies with junk, all he while putting the best in our automobiles, so much so that our health care facilities are unable to accomodate it all.

We attribute the observables of all the wonderful complexity to the created, rather than to the great designer who did the creating, like if we alleged that a beautiful turned pot designed itself, the ToE being a classic example.

God requires the most from whom much has been given. That America has been so blessed of Jehovah, requires more from him of America than those who have not.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Message 68 of 150 (667345)
07-06-2012 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Buzsaw
07-05-2012 10:43 PM


Re: Re
Hundreds of expensive homes burned up in Colorado

But no old expensive homes burned up in Colorado.

Think about that for a second. The only construction burned up in Colorado was new construction.

Does that mean that God's Wrath somehow spares the Register of Historic Buildings? Or does that mean that the damage to people's homes, here, is a function of people's habitation extending into areas that have always traditionally experienced wildfires?

It's like you don't even think about these things, Buz, or that you say "well, it could be God's Wrath; therefore it probably is." The way it works is that you have to present evidence that God's wrath is the only explanation for these things.

I don't see how you can do that. This whole topic is another one of your immediate non-starters. You're simply not going to ever do the work it takes to support your end of an argument. No wonder we're all talking to other people, and "ignoring the substance of your OP" - your OP, and all subsequent posts, are in-substantive. There's just nothing there to reply to. One instance of wildfires in Colorado does not "God's wrath" make.

Look what happened to the Germans for the holocaust, etc.

What happened to the Germans? Germany has the strongest economy in Europe. It's actually pretty strong evidence for the nonexistence of God that the broad complicity of Germans, Poles, and Austrians in the genocide of God's "chosen people" has gone basically unavenged.

Tiny Israel has most always kicked butt on all of the large nations surrounding them, all vowing to destroy her.

Well, yeah. Because a major party of the US is prepared to commit treason in order to aid "Tiny Israel."

That's a fairly large advantage.


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Message 69 of 150 (667346)
07-06-2012 8:50 AM
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07-06-2012 8:01 AM


Re: Other Factors
Buzsaw writes:

Go to a Chinese Restaurant. How many obese staff do see in them? There is an epidemic of obesity among junk food consuming adults and children alike in our nation.

Woah; slow down Buz, He's pissed off with fatties as well as sodomites?

What do you reckon these kids did to desrve it? It seems unlikely to be sodomy, obesity or abusing Israelis.

By Hilary Andersson
BBC News, Maradi, southern Niger
Special Niger report

Children are dying of starvation in feeding centres in Niger, where 3.6m people face severe food shortages, aid agencies have warned.
The crisis in the south of the country has been caused by a drought and a plague of locusts which destroyed much of last year's harvest.

Check the numbers Buz - that's 3.6 million and a real, old fashioned, biblical, plague of locusts - how does that stack up with a fire in Colorado?


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Message 70 of 150 (667347)
07-06-2012 9:16 AM
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07-05-2012 10:54 PM


Re: Substanceless Yada
Buzsaw writes:
It appears that since a number of the respondents can't refute the substance of my OP ...

There was substance?

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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Message 71 of 150 (667351)
07-06-2012 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Buzsaw
07-05-2012 7:56 AM


Re: Earthquakes
It would be helpful then to see your comparison of the actual figures, let us say the list of natural disasters the U.S. has suffered in the last decade compared to previous decades. Can you talk us through your interpretation of them?

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Message 72 of 150 (667353)
07-06-2012 10:15 AM
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07-06-2012 8:01 AM


Re: Other Factors
Frako, if you re-read, you'll note that I cited the two as the two biggies that tick God off.

Two biggies?

It is really weird that you consider those things more important than the one actual "biggie" that Jesus specifically mentions which is greed. If there is an epidemic that SHOULD piss of Jesus more than anything it aught to be race to concentrate wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people and the tendency to leave children suffering in the wake of that effort.

We have very specific instructions on excess greed and what happens to those folk. They burn

We also know suggestivly what happens to people who mistreat children, it is BETTER if they get drowned in the bottom of the ocean.

And yet we have no such indication from Jesus about what happens to people who put their penises in the wrong place. There is no waxing poetically about camels and the eyes of needle, no millstones around anyones neck, no burning in hell begging for water, nothing.

If it was SOOOO important, why did he neglect to mention it even once?


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Message 73 of 150 (667354)
07-06-2012 10:15 AM
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07-05-2012 10:09 PM


Re: Nothing Pertaining To Buzsaw Here.
There's nothing in the OP pertaing to me. This thread as strictly about Jehovah the biblical god's Abrahamic Covenant and his views on his messianic nation, Israel and sodomy.
There is nothing, whatsover about me or my views.

Yes, but since Jehovah and his wrath (*) seem to exist only in the fevered imaginations of believers, the assorted barbarities you attribute to him are actually a fun-house mirror image of your own inner workings. Your post is all about you.

Yuck.

Capt.

(*) - A perception that could be fixed if you would get off your lazy ass and make the graph everyone has been asking for. The one that demonstrates that your claims are the result of something other than the more parsimonious likelihood of a selective, declining memory fueled by blind ideology. Or are you afraid of what you might find if you put some facts in order instead of just plucking from them at random?

Edited by Capt Stormfield, : syntax


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Message 74 of 150 (667355)
07-06-2012 10:20 AM


Buz, you've tried this before and couldn't supply any evidence or reasoning for your claims then either.

Earthquakes And End Time Biblical Prophecy and Pat Robertson on natural disasters


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Message 75 of 150 (667356)
07-06-2012 10:23 AM
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07-06-2012 2:04 AM


This is more like it.


"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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