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Name one bush policy that lead to the financial crisis of 2008.

You could start by using your own mind and telling me one yourself.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

I can't believe you think the only reason people don't like obama is because of his race. There are very few people who don't like him for that reason, or at least I haven't run into those kind.

And what exactly did bush have to do with any of that?

Was it recklessness that caused the financial collapse or was it introduction of sub prime lending in the nineties and the pressure put on banks to lend to people who had no business borrowing money that caused it? Banks are going to make a profit regardless. If you force them to lend to bad credit risks, they will find a way to cover that risk. Fannie mae and freddie mac were guaranteeing these bad loans. Who was responsible for that policy? To me, these factors were far more responsible for the collapse than the deregulation of the 90's or allowing banking execs to be regulators. Bush did see the looming problems and tried to reign in freddie mae and fannie mac but democrats in congress stopped him in his tracks.

You should be scared of obama being reelected. I guess you like depression era unemployment? I guess you like record setting levels of people below the poverty line? I guess you like record setting numbers of people receiving food stamps?

Note how historically ,turtle like, slow the graphs have moved up. No other recovery in history has been this pathetic. It is very similar to stagnant to slow growth experience under the policies of FDR.The fact of the matter is that economies usually recover very vigorously if business know what it is dealing with. They didn't know what was going to happen from one day to the next with the FDR administration. Ditto for the obama administration. That uncertainty combined with anti business rhetoric spewing out from this administration on a daily basis is enough to tamp down any vigorous economic recovery. If government gets completely out of the way, an economy naturally grows its GDP at 7% a year. The fact that it doesn't most of the time is a reflection on government retardation effect on it. We should be down to 5 percent REAL unemployment by now, not the FAKE 8.2 percent put out by the bureau of labor statistics. We certainly should not be at the REAL 11.2 % unemployment that we are experiencing now. This figure is what you get when you use the the number of people in the labor force when obama took office. It is the same method that was used during the early part of the reagan administration. There was no monkey business in the jobs numbers then.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

Name one thing the conservatives made up in their heads.

http://www.sundriesshack.com/...s-have-clinton-all-over-them

How much text do you want? I was going to copy and paste the whole thing because I thought it was all informative. I didn't do that because I thought I would get in trouble for that.{Note: Replied to via Personal Message - Adminnemooseus}Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note.

Do you realize that most political ads people hear or see are on television or radio? Both of those cost lots of money. If you restrict the amount of money people donate, you let the media and unions dominate what is said on tv and radio. Other than fox news and right wing radio, the media is extremely left wing. If you people would take your blinders off, you would see how everything is slanted pro democrat and anti republican. It is even more slanted anti conservative. You people cannot see that though because I have never met a group of people who were so far to the left they were neighbors of karl marx.

Do you not understand how the government under leftist control demands the private sector to do as it wishes? The government wanted minorities and certain neighborhoods to obtain loans regardless of ability to repay. The link I gave showed that the government threatened banks with real and severe punishment if they did not comply. The government severely punishes other businesses who do not comply with regulations and demands already. What makes you think banks are any different?Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

It is actually those who are politically active and informed that are listened to the most. The ones who are not active or informed are the ones most influenced by political ads. If you want to win you must listen to the informed and to those who provide you money to put out ads. Less than 2% of the public may contribute to campaigns but that doesn't mean their point of view isn't represented. The people with money who put out ads seem to have ads that reverberate with common folks in the conservative arena. These conservatives are often dirt poor and they appreciate that someone has enough money to get their point of view out. If that is restricted, poor conservatives will no longer have a voice in political ads.

And a government without marxists running the show forming regulations with an anti business attitude, would help the US economy to be at least 10 times bigger than it is. And the government is the biggest killer of small businesses and the biggest cause of poverty in this country. The trillions they invest mostly takes money out of productive hands and puts it into non productive hands who do nothing but create demand. Other than roads, bridges, schools and other infrastructure, the money is put into non productive means. It does nothing to create an environment for business; all it does is provide demand for the economy. All demand and no productivity equals low standard of living and greater levels of poverty in the end.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

Evidently everybody here is a brainwashed marxist. Too much higher education without questioning your marxist profs will do that to you. When you firmly believe that the physical world is all there is to reality, I guess marxism is an easily swallowed pill. The hatred for creationism on this board and the full board marxism of the members here seem to go hand in hand.