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More BS from BZ. Romney was raised in Bloomfield Hills, MI. Not really the liberal east is it.Edited by Theodoric, : its Buz not Bus

Have you no shame?
Repeatedly you post utter crap and have it routinely taken to pieces with the most rudimentary of fact checking.
Seriously... is there a mental block that prevents you from registering when your bullshit is shown for what it is? perhaps a form of dyslexia that means your brain cannot process contradictory information?You have become a joke on this forum, repeatedly running headlong into the parked cars that are Facts with your made-up-on-the-spot lies held aloft.

Hi Buz Both are rich, neither has had a real working class job. Romney is NOT clean on Bains, and has refuse to show his income tax returns for the years he was there -- you would be screaming conspiracy if this was a democrat.Ryan is there to distract the media with other issues and take the heat off Romney. Evangelicals I've known consider both cults. I grew up in Michigan, it is in the midwest, Wisconsin is also the midwest and they share a common border: not much geographical\social diversity there. You hope, if they can look past what Ryan wants to do to school loans. Which is neither here nor there if it's not telling the truth. His "budget" id a fantasy full of falsehoods and misrepresentations. Probably a good thing then that there is no mainstream liberal media. Being able to stonewall instead of give an honest reply is not a virtue in my book. Which is not saying much.The ones he will take social security from? The ones he will take medicare from? And neither is stellar. Perhaps he will know that a Muslim country will have Muslim leaders and where the capital of Israel is ...EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : .

Buz, I'm surprised you haven't brought up Romney's father. Being that it was your main focus with Obama.Romney's dad was born in Mexico in a polygamist colony. Romney's dad is... Mexican! - OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

And when you listen to all of obamas speech , you get exactly what the ad is telling you obama meant, which is: You did not build that....You could not have built that without government....It wasn't your smarts that built that....It wasn't your hard work that built that....It was the roads and bridges that government paid for that built that, along with everything in your life that government had something to do with that built that.....That is EXACTLY what obama meant in that speech in its ENTIRETY of context. That is not deceptive or lying. Taking that one quote "you didn't build that" is not out of context. The entirety of the speech is meant to convey that exact meaning.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

And romney's dad was an american citizen. What about obama's dad?

Buz said romney came from the liberal east. He didn't say he was raised in the liberal east. There is quite a difference. When you say somebody comes from a certain background, you are talking about the culture they spent the majority of their adult life in. Romney spent the majority of his adult life in the culture of the liberal northeast. Ryan spent the majority of his adult life in the culture of the more mainstream midwest.

If you look at one interpretation of the phrase "you didn't build that" (ie "You didn't build that on your own - you needed help from other people too"), then I can agree with what you're saying.The problem is that by quoting the phrase on its own, and out of its context, then it allows alternative interpretations of the phrase (eg "You had no part in building that" or "that was already there and you didn't add to it").I suspect that the purpose in quoting the phrase on its own, out of context, was to allow for the alternative, more insulting interpretations, which inclusion of the context would clearly rule out.

So Steve Jobs,Educated all of his employees from birth?
Built the schools that carried out that education?
Paved all the roads that carry iPads to to stores or consumer's doors?
Built the bridges for the same purpose?
Built a national airport and air traffic control system to make sure that his people and products can move quickly to where they need to be?
Hired and pays the judges who enforce that his contracts are honored?
Hired and pays the patent officers who protect his intellectual property?
Hires the police that keep Apple stores from being ransacked by thieves?
Pays for the infastructure that keeps his stored powered, with proper sanitation?
Pays for the street lights that make his customers feel safe travelling to his stores?I can probably think up a ton more.So did he do all of those things? Did he build those?Fair warning, these are trick questions.

Well you obviously have basic comprehension issues. Your hatred for Obama(based on what I am not sure) has completely clouded your ability to make reasonable conclusions.Have you even read what he said in context?

But that isn't really what Buz said is it? If Buz wants to make the clarification why dont you let him defend himself instead of you trying to determine what he meant by clairvoyance.Buz's list has been shown to be all BS. Maybe you can support more of his outlandish claims.ABE
Using your criteria Ryan is not from the "mainstream"(wonder how the rest of the country feels about that moniker) midwest.

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Ryan later worked for U.S. Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas before returned to Wisconsin in 1997, where he worked for a year as a marketing consultant for Ryan Incorporated Central, his relatives' construction company.

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In 1998 he was elected to congress and has been a denizen of Washington since. I realize he lives parttime in WI too, but Mitt lives parttime in lots of places besides "liberal" northeast.Edited by Theodoric, : More info

Well, no it isn't. We all know what he said and what he therefore meant. So do you, don't you? Don't you?If your silly nonsense was his platform, then he'd have said so, wouldn't he? But instead your point is: "If you read this one thing that he said once, and if you turn your brain off and ignore everything else that he's said ever, and if you try really hard to misinterpret what he said, then you can misinterpret him as meaning something the complete opposite of what he believes, so you should vote against him."

Well, wasn't it? Isn't that the point of government, to do these sorts of "public good" projects that promote economic, community, and business development?And when a business reaps a substantial profit in a marketplace that only exists because of public investment, don't they owe the public something for that? Otherwise you're defending a system of socialized risk and privatives reward.

Is this the Romney ad we're talking about?http://youtu.be/fLZpMFbxyxU I think you're partially correct. Obama is emphasizing the role of the government over the working person. But he didn't say that the working person didn't contribute.When Romney's ad cuts from Obama's speach to that guy going: "Huh? My hands didn't build this!?"... they're spinning Obama into saying that the working person didn't contribute.Even though that isn't exactly what Obama was saying, I still wonder why he's softening up that mentality. What's in it for those working persons who've built their own businesses? Romney's ad is opening up that line of questioning for the intended audience, and in that sense it is within the context of Obama's speach in total, but it also quotemine-n-spins what Obama actually said into him looking like he's saying something else; so it does take him out of context.But that's just politics. I'd expect nothing less than this kind of bullshit.

Don't they pay taxes?