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No where near enough taxes.

That sir is the rub. Look at the amount of taxes they pay. Hardly adequate for a lot of the larger corporations considering the burden that they put on infrastructure, social services and other things that fall under government purview.

The small businesses that working people have built themselves don't pay near enough in taxes? How much do they pay and how much should they pay? If Obama's speach was softening those people up for taxes, then Romney's ad is right that they don't want to vote for him.

Please show where this was said. Please show where the President is planning on raising taxes on small business people.I think the whole definition of small business needs to be determined if the small business argument . according to SBA

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Manufacturing: Maximum number of employees may range from 500 to 1500, depending on the type of product manufactured;
Wholesaling: Maximum number of employees may range from 100 to 500 depending on the particular product being provided;
Services: Annual receipts may not exceed $2.5 to $21.5 million, depending on the particular service being provided;
Retailing: Annual receipts may not exceed $5.0 to $21.0 million, depending on the particular product being provided;
General and Heavy Construction: General construction annual receipts may not exceed $13.5 to $17 million, depending on the type of construction;
Special Trade Construction: Annual receipts may not exceed $7 million; and
Agriculture: Annual receipts may not exceed $0.5 to $9.0 million, depending on the agricultural product.

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Some of those are quite large concerns. If a small business owner is making huge amounts of money then maybe he should pay more in taxes. This whole poor small business argument is just a right wing canard.Lets look at more figures. From people that actually looked at actual numbers.

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Supporters of various tax benefits for high-income households often claim that failure to maintain them would have an undue effect on many small businesses. But even assuming a broad definition of small business, these claims are very often exaggerated or false.

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Only 1.9 percent of taxpayers with small-business income face either of the top two income tax rates. Thus, allowing the 2001 reductions in these rates to expire as scheduled in 2010 would not affect most small-business owners. Strengthening the Earned Income Tax Credit could help more than seven times as many small businesses as extending the reductions in the top rates.

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Claims that the estate tax must be largely or entirely eliminated to protect small businesses are misleading as well. According to the Tax Policy Center, in 2009 only 0.003 percent of all estates that is, the estates of three out of every 100,000 people who die this year will be small business estates that owe any estate tax.

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The typical small business is not a wealthy hedge fund. Closing a lucrative tax loophole used by hedge fund managers would have no effect on mom and pop businesses.

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Not all businesses are small but business should pay taxes sufficient to finance the benefits that they receive from government programs.

Obama was talking to individuals who have a business and telling them that they didn't get there on their own because of all the help they had from other people and the government.Why was he specifically pointing that out?And don't bother with the copy pasta, please make your points in your own words. Sure, maybe. How much are they paying and how much should they be paying?

Of course. Obama was talking to individuals who've "got a business". Why would he be pointing that out to those people unless he's implying that they aren't paying their fair share?

It is not just a matter of "fair share". US taxes must get much higher if we want to return to being a first world nation.It is also time that US Citizens learned just how much they expect from government and that the bill will get paid, one way or another.

I did and then I provided evidence. You might want to try some to support your unevidenced assertions. Since you are having some trouble let me spell it out.
Most small business people do not make a lot of income. The vast majority do not fall in to the tiers that their taxes would be increased by an proposal of Obama or the democrats.
You see this is not an unevidenced assertion HMM?? Because it is true. From that you leap to the conclusion that he wants small business people to pay more in taxes. Maybe you should o research on what he proposes for taxes and what small business owners make in income. Is this rhetorical question day? Either make your point or not. Do you have a point to make on this so I can respond?

He died - Oni

Perhaps they won't want to vote for Obama because they don't want to pay higher taxes. But the ad proposes a completely different reason. Unless you believe that a lie is okay in the service of a good cause, they your argument is not germane.

Wow. What a bizarre interpretation. Maybe he was trying to remind people that we are a society and we do not live in a vacuum. He is expressing solid time tested free market values. The views expressed are the core of free market theory developed by Adam Smith. Conservatives and libertarians really should see what Smith wrote before they use him as their standard bearer.I do not think he was implying this at all. If you inferred that it is your issue not his or anyone elses.Here are his words.

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"Look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

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If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

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His own words. Sorry I don't feel I should put them in my own words. Would kind of defeat the purpose.Now where in there do you see him implying that small business people are not paying enough taxes?

Wooossshhhh!!!

C.S.Go back to your post 171 and LISTEN to Obama. Don't read it.Watch this: Theodoric is the most brilliant person posting on the EVC forum.You can quote me.... What do I mean......Well you need to HEAR how I said that to know what I mean.Listen to Obama, He is making fun of/mocking people who have started their own business and know they got there through being smart and working hard.Listen to the way he says there are a lot of smart people out there. Listen to how he says lots of people work hard.You know he wonders about people who take credit for what they do. Strange because I don't.As an aside what kind of mentally deranged person would spend over a million dollars just to keep people from seeing his birth certificate?This fall Obama will get beaten worst than a red headed step child.P.S. Listen to him, then listen and pay attention to the crowds reaction, and his to them. Watch his body language.
You and forever young got it right you just couldn't put your finger on it.Edited by petrophysics1, : Add P.S.

What the hell does that mean? - Oni